Erdwolf_TVL Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 (edited) I had 30 feet of colour negative film "printed" to positive by ANDEC Filmtechnik. And honestly, it blows Ektachrome 64 out of the water for what I would like to use film for. I will be doing 99% of my work on colour negative from this point onwards! --- The first 15 feet was shot on 500 ASA film. Inside a dark pub with a non-XL camera and some shots on a gritty tube station. The grain was average, but the results were good, considering the light that was available. The few seconds I shot in daylight with this film is almost indistinguisable from 200 ASA. The next 15 feet was shot with 200 film in daylight with a +2 Neutral Density filter. The grain of this one is so subtle, you have to squint your eyes to see it. The colours are very lifelike. Perhaps not as saturated as reversal, but the blacks are solid, and the whole thing oozes quality. And it's only a one-light print! From shoot to projection, the cost is about double that of reversal. --- I wonder what kind of stock they used for this? As far as I know there are no super 8mm print films available from Kodak. Perhaps they use cut down 16 or 35mm stock? The film is definitely polyester based. Very difficult to cut and film cement has NO effect on it. Better get myself a tape splicer... --- Either way, a most recommended excercise! Edited November 12, 2005 by Erdwolf_TVL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Wilson Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Where did you get this done? I'd always heard that it wasn't worth anyone's while to offer print services for the negative stocks. Can this be used for workprinting purposes so that I could actually edit on film instead of on video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erdwolf_TVL Posted November 12, 2005 Author Share Posted November 12, 2005 (edited) Where did you get this done? I'd always heard that it wasn't worth anyone's while to offer print services for the negative stocks. Can this be used for workprinting purposes so that I could actually edit on film instead of on video? The lab that did the works was "ANDEC Filmtechnik" http://www.andecfilm.de/html/start_english.htm The Wide Screen Centre in London act as their agents in London (to my understanding). Processing took about 10 days (from drop off to collection) and cost around 30 pounds for 100 feet. !!! Sorry, I said feet in my previous post when I actually meant meters... !!! --- As for editing this film, I think it's more than possible, provided you have the tools to work with polyester film. Though it may be worth splicing the negative (which is acetate) and then having the finished negative printed. --- I'm by no means an expert in this regard, though, so any comments would be appreciated! Edited November 12, 2005 by Erdwolf_TVL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathis Nitschke Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 I wonder what kind of stock they used for this? As far as I know there are no super 8mm print films available from Kodak. Perhaps they use cut down 16 or 35mm stock? You get Kodak print stock in 8mm. Yes, I love that service, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andres victorero Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Hi Erdwolf_TVL can you post some pics of your test? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erdwolf_TVL Posted November 15, 2005 Author Share Posted November 15, 2005 Hi Erdwolf_TVL can you post some pics of your test? thanks Will do at some point. Not very high on my priority list right now, since I've already telecined the colour negative. Would be an interesting comparison. I doubt whether it would look any better than the direct from neg, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Downes Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 As far as I know there are no super 8mm print films available from Kodak. Perhaps they use cut down 16 or 35mm stock? Actually, Kodak does offer 1 of their 16mm print stocks with DS8 perforations, so my bet is that they used this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tuohy Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 No, its not a DS8 print stock. I asked them. They have custom ordered 35mm 4xsuper8 perf. I forget the code for designating the order of perforations but each perf is 8mm spaced from the next. if it were DS8 I would love to get some, but its not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Sandstrom Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 is it the same that derann use to print features and cartoons by any chance? i heard that they print several copies simultaneously on 35mm and split it afterwards. /matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Pytlak RIP Posted November 17, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted November 17, 2005 Yes, Kodak color print film is available in "multirow" Super-8 formats, that are slit after printing and processing. There are formats for two rows of Super-8 on a 16mm film, and four rows of Super-8 on a 35mm film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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