Kodak 7985 (Triacetate?)

[Jack Honeycutt]

I have searched the Kodak web site and came up with nothing on the different types of Kodak leader.

 

I have some old 16mm film I am moving to DVD and then storing. I am trying to learn about a Kodak white painted leader called Triacetate.

 

I have some Kodak film code numbers, but I still can't find anything on Kodak's site. One possibility for the leader I am looking for is Kodak film number 7985. While I have a Kodak catalog number for this white leader (157-1199, a 100 ft roll) I find nothing on Kodak's site about it. I can order it, but I don't know if it is heat splicing leader, plastic, acetate or Triacetate.

 

Some other Kodak numbers for leader are:

7977

7981

7982

 

But again, I can't find anything on Kodak's site about them.

 

I know I am missing a Kodak document on leaders, but I can't find it. Someplace on Kodak's site is a pdf file that talks about Kodak's leaders, but it has alluded me.

 

Can someone (John Pytlak?) point me in the right direction?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

jack

[John Pytlak RIP]

Kodak discontinued listing leaders in its catalog years ago. Kodak FPC in Hollywood has leader materials available in its catalog, along with other sundries and services:

 

http://www.fpchollywood.com/film-leaders.html

 

Contact FPC Hollywood:

 

http://www.fpchollywood.com/contactus.html

[Jack Honeycutt]

Kodak discontinued listing leaders in its catalog years ago.  Kodak FPC in Hollywood has leader materials available in its catalog, along with other sundries and services:

http://www.fpchollywood.com/film-leaders.html

Thanks John. I checked them out. They sell in bulk and had no information on the Kodak part numbers I have.

 

Do you know of a FAQ or other document that would give me specifics on Kodak's leaders? I am trying to find out if they are plastic, acetate, painted leader, green, white, etc. I could not find the following (which Kodak sells) items on any price list on the Kodak web site:

 

7977

7981

7982

7985 (Cat # 157-119)

 

let alone any data on them...

 

Maybe some other document outside of Kodak can give me some data on the above Kodak products?

 

Thanks again.

 

jack

 

PS: Why did Kodak eliminate data on it's leaders? I understand leader type is important when preserving old film (which is what I am trying to do)

[John Pytlak RIP]

I'm on a business trip to NYC this week, so I don't have access to my paper files. I may have some data sheets for the old Kodak leaders in my Rochester office.

[Jack Honeycutt]

I'm on a business trip to NYC this week, so I don't have access to my paper files.  I may have some data sheets for the old Kodak leaders in my Rochester office.

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Oh John, that sounds too much like work! I don't want you spending your own time digging out old paperwork.

 

Maybe you can just clear up one item for me. Is acetate & triacetate stock the same thing?

 

jack

[John Pytlak RIP]

"Acetate" is sort of a generic term. Early safety film was cellulose DIacetate or cellulose butyrate, but for a variety of reasons was not ideal for theatrical motion picture film. Kodak's introduction of cellulose TRIacetate for motion picture film in 1948 finally yielded a film support that had almost all the good qualities of cellulose nitrate, without being so flammable:

 

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/support/...tml#manufacture

 

http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/...t/chrono2.shtml

 

Kodak won an Class 1 (Oscar) Academy Award for this invention in 1949.

[Jack Honeycutt]

"Acetate" is sort of a generic term.  Early safety film was cellulose DIacetate or cellulose butyrate, but for a variety of reasons was not ideal for theatrical motion picture film.  Kodak's introduction of cellulose TRIacetate for motion picture film in 1948 finally yielded a film support that had almost all the good qualities of cellulose nitrate, without being so flammable

Thanks John. Great links. I am going to call this white leader from Kodak (7985, Cat # 157-119) cellulose triacetate.

 

jack

[John Pytlak RIP]

I'm back in Rochester. I found Kodak Technical Publication H-1-5980, dated 01-1981 that says: "KODAK White Movie Leader 7985, 0.006 inch thickness, Opaque white leader suitable for leaders and trailers on release prints."

 

Most likely is cellulose triacetate. Definitely NOT polyester (ESTAR) base.