SKI'N'FILM Posted March 21, 2004 Share Posted March 21, 2004 Hi, I'm really, really new to film, I've been using digi cameras for awhile and have been editing on FCP 4 with mini dv. I heard that film can be transferred to mini dv fairly easy if you have a studio near you that is capable of that. Anyway I wanted to get a camera either 8mm or 16mm real cheap. I'm on the cheapest budget cause I'm in college and always skip to go skiing. And I thought I might as well try to make a living out of skiing by filming it and editing some movies. The digital cameras I use don't even come close to the quality of film and to make it in todays world of ski movies you need to use some film. Like in Warren Miller film the film quality is awesome, I'm not hoping to get quality that good but I was hoping to at least know"it was shot on film" kinda effect. I was looking at these cameras on ebay any tips or suggestions would help so much: heres the 8mm camera's http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&item=3803552251&category=4691 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...1&category=4691 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...6&category=4691 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...3&category=4691 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...0&category=4691 here's the 16mm http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...8&category=4691 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...0&category=4691 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...5&category=4691 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...2&category=4691 These are the choices I had any suggestions would be great. I just wanted something to learn on and mess around on until I learned enough to spend alot on a camera. But I also wanted something where I could see the difference between film and dv. I'm sure that won't be a problem though no matter what i get. Also if anyone knows of any better deals or cheaper or if anyone is selling a film camera who reads this please email me at ATVEB@aol.com or just respond to this topic.. THANKS ALOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister X Posted March 21, 2004 Share Posted March 21, 2004 If you are not too concerned about camera noise, there are lots of Bolex cameras available on eBay. If you just want to experiment, (and resell it, later), this might be a good choice. However, caveat emptor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Downes Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Well, you obviously have more money to spend than I do. Tee hee. The 8mm's you list are not worth it. Look for a Super8 camera if you want to do small-gague work. But if you can afford it, jump on those 16mm's. Those are excellent for film work. I don't know the B&H, but my Filmo is a tank and never fails me. And my Bolex never has let me down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Gingerich Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 What about the price of shooting on 16 as compared to Super8? Factoring in the cost of film stock, processing, and telecine, how would the per minute price of shooting 16mm short ends & recans compare to the per minute price of shooting, say, Super8 K40? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan D. Lee Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 The price difference will be big if you are shooting on K40 versus any 16, but remember that K40 is reversal intended for home movies. To be honest it is a great way to start because the film and the processing are so cheap. But if you are looking for soemthing that will come close to comparing to any 16, you are going to have to get pro stocks cut down to 8mm. Such as at pro8mm.com. I am in Seattle and some local places also have kodak vision and other stocks cut down to super8mm. They are more expensive, but will yeild much higer results after telecine. Pro8mm have a demo DVD available. But even after seeing it and looking at the not so great price difference between the highest end 8mm and 16, i have chosen to shoot my first film (next week) on 16mm. If you are a film student you get a 20% discount on all Kodak and Fuji motion picture films. If you are a student but not in a film program you cannot get kodaks discount but you can get Fuji's. Its working great for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Oliver Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 From my experience shooting Pro8 stocks (neg cut downs) and having them transfered to video tends to come in at a similar price to doing the same on 16! IMHO Olly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Pytlak RIP Posted August 21, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted August 21, 2004 16mm: http://www.kodak.com/go/16mm Super-8: http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/super8/i....1.4.4.10&lc=en Certainly, 16mm is more readily available at professional motion picture labs and transfer facilities, and there is a wider selection of stocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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