Tim Kirk

I agree when you say low price helps sustain the Super-8 format. But who actually educates the Super-8 filmmaker? As useful as these forums can be, the number of hits is really tiny compared to what it would take to make Kodak happy. Also, mixed in with the helpfulness are huge fights mixed in to topics that seem to negate some of the good of leaving useful information.

 

The real education happens when someone walks through the front of a photographic store and actually can talk to an experienced filmmaker who has actually shot Super-8 and 16mm and even shoots it to this day. This is sorely missing as it stands today.

a valid point. i agree

But how does that help Kodak in the long run when it comes to bringing in new filmmakers?

i think the format itself brings in new film makers, if that makes sense. its kinda like word of mouth advertising. at least i never heard of super 8 before i got told about it. and given that super 8 is getting bigger, even with people thinking about price and so forth. so maybe kodak dont need to worry about that. or maybe kodak are cheapest. in which case it helps them

dont worry i got it. how do you delete a thread of my own?

and what is perfection anyway?

collins dicionary sais perfect - having all the essential elements

perfection - the state of being perfect

yea that's what angry people like to say

 

tell that to the bacteria and fish...

 

life can stagnate and still survive for billions of years, I doubt humans will survive for a fraction of that time with all their fascinating evolution and progress

well thats a completely pointless statement, why change perfection. and why change if theres no reason to change. simply saying that things can survive a long time doesnt discount santos statement which i more or less agree with. you sound like an angry person.

and unfortunately these days. Nothing is built to last because when it breaks, greedy old men get more money when we have to replace things that they built to break. thats the way of the future. you could say that those who still sell things that cost 10 times the price and will last 25+ years didnt evolve. cos lets face it. theres simply no market for that any more. and you dont have to start pointing out that youd buy quality over some thing else, the tiny minority who have a clue cant help.

cheers for reading

Tim

what do i put the film in for it to be sent away and do i need to be careful about light when i take it out of the camera? is there any thing else i should knwo before i do this. im a complete noob so please tell me every thing i need to knwo no matter how obvious.

cheers

Tim Kirk

also i should mention is tri-x reversal bw

You used to race Engish cars? If I didn't owe you so much, I might be a smart ass and say something like how do you race a car that breaks down before you can get it to the end of the driveway? :D. (I used to race a Corvette and you shoulda heard the poop we gave the Ford guys)

legend :D

on a different note. im looking for ppl with some background with film adn super 8 in Perth Western australia who might be interested in being interviewed for my documentary (which isnt garenteed yet but its looking good. theres no massive budget so if any one is interested please let me know in this thread or pm. would be great

thanks alot

Tim Kirk

oh yeh cool. cheers for that.

any idea about the thread in he eye peice

I feel that from the context it must mean "how nice that that's your opinion. Jackass," or something similar. Am I right? Close?

haha yeh it is spot on!!! :D

yeh and sorry your not all fu**ed. just misguided perhaps.

I noticed in the eye peice of the 1014e that there is a thread just on the edge on the inside for screwing some thing on to it. i was wondering what would go on there.

and also when shooting with out your eye against the eye piece you have to close the eypiece to stop light going through it and onto the film. but this means that you cant see exactly what your pointing the camera at. is it possible and i doubt it but can you connect a monitor to this camera?

Cheers

Tim Kirk

YOUR ALL fu**ED.

why the hell are you wasting your time with such a completely usless and pointless thread.

what happned to a simple "good on ya" then move along.

im pretty sure you all know your positions. ie - every one hates santo. and he hates every one else.

so drop it. go to my thread instead :D

cheers guys thats awesome. stunned that it took only three posts to change the subject but it got back.

thanks again but some of you i wanted your oppnions not for you to argue amongst your selves.

what about in australia? any thing happening there?

as a tafe assingment i have chosen to do a documentary on 8mm filming. the theme being is it dead or alive. my research suggests that there is a future for this format. but id like any oppinions you might have about this subject.

also if you have any other information or links to sites that have any history of film information that would be awesome.

cheers a bundle.

Tim Kirk

It can be done, but pushing it. keep a good distance from camera and mic. control the direction of the mic opposite the camera, monidirectional. would be good to do some recording tests while dry running the camera. you can find egg crate material at most retail stores... it's spongy stuff, like a big flat sponge with the surface shaped like the inside of an egg carton.

oh yeh i know the stuff now. my school had it on walls for sound proofing.

thanks skratch

the silent genny would be nice but i have access to one which is probably not silent. its my mates and i can use it for free. which is preferable. i think the long cable is the way to go. i dont really like the idea of a battery for lights any way. ill just have to work a way round the noise issue if it is bad enuf

cheers guys

just wondering about lighting in a bushy area where we wont have access to power. is there another way to get power for lights other than a gennerator. the noise it makes could mean having to record sound after and lay it over the top of footage. which id like to avoid if possible.

i thought maybe like a car baterry or some thing. but i doubt that would have enuf power to support the lights for sustained periods.its likely to be only 2 maybe 3 red heads.

any ideas?

Tim

If your filming for the whole 2:30 duration, you'll start noticing drift after about a minute... small enough to stretch your audio to fit, and not notice any consequences. If you have some natural background noise, you shouldn't hear the camera in your scene.. for a quiet room filming/recording, you'll need to silence the camera with a barney or egg crate foam.

what im planning involves a lot of very quiet shots. ei late at night in bed sort of thing. none of the shots should go longer than even thirty seconds but i reckon.

is a barney that thick bag that goes over the camera. if it is ive only seen on a 16 mm aaton. whats this egg crate foam.

how would the xl go with separate sound recording as i plan to?

hey guys this is my first post. i bought a 1014 xl last week just waiting for it to be serviced and get it back in about 2 weeks.

important to note is that you cant get xls film any more (unless im wrong) so the audio recording stuff is more or less useless.

the variable shutter is cool on the xls. i have no idea what an intervalometer is but....