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    500T... too good to be true?

    in Super-8

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    I'm in the process of making my own Super 8 Project, which is more of a documentary than anything. Therefore, i purchased a few rolls of Ektachrome and a roll of 200T and a roll of 500T.

     

    Most of the shooting was going to be done in daylight (hence the Ektachrome) but i wanted a few rolls of film just in case i wanted to shoot some footage with artificial light.

     

    However, i don't see much difference in my exposure settings with Ektachrome or the 200T and 500T. Using my in-camera light meter, i get just about the same readings no matter what film is loaded.

     

    Is there supposed to be a large difference in the amount of light needed for a decent exposure in each of the films? If not, then what is the real point of 200T and 500T?

     

    Thank You-

     

    Nick Norton

    Develop Ektachrome 160

    in Super-8

    Posted

    I bought a used super 8 camera, and a cartridge of Kodak Ektachrome 160 (7257) came with it.

     

    I shot the roll, and now was wondering if anyone knew of a place i could get it developed at.

     

    I'd appreciate any help.

     

    Thanks-

     

    Nick Norton

    Now and Later?

    in Super-8

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    I just bought a few various rolls of super 8 film. I always thought of super 8 film as 35mm still photography film as in: once you put in the roll, you have to shoot all 24 exposures (50 ft in super 8) before taking out the film. But i bought some film that was good in low light, and some thats not. But i don't have to shoot an entire roll at once do i? For example, if i shot at night but still had film left over the next day... couldn't i take out that cartridge, shoot daylight film, then when night returns throw back in the other film cartridge. I'm sure i would ruin just the few frames that are exposed when i take out the cartridge, but other than that the film should be fine, correct?

     

    i suppose this is a stupid question, but i'm not very smart... so there you have it.

     

     

    Thanks for anyone who read all of that and somehow understood it-

     

    Nick Norton

    Super 8 Projector

    in Super-8

    Posted

    I am currently looking to purchase a super8 projector. I am not looking to use this as a way to transfer the film to video, i simply want to watch my super 8 films with it.

     

    Does anyone know a few things i should look for when i am deciding on which one to purchase?

     

    I don't know anything about projectors, so any help would be appreciated.

     

    Thanks-

     

    Nick Norton

    Devloping Super 8

    in Super-8

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    Well i shot two cartridges of super 8 film, one Ektachrome and one Plus-X.

     

    However, i do not know of any places to send my film to be developed.

     

    Does anyone here know a good, reliable place to send film stock to?

     

    I found this place, http://www.framediscreet.com/super8mmmethod.htm, to get the film transfered to mini-dv, but they don't seem to actually develop the film... has anyone went through them? does it seem like a reasonable place to try?

     

    Any information or advice would be really appreciated.

     

     

     

    Thanks-

     

    nick norton

    ND filter for regular daylight?

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    ok i lied, i did not put film in the camera myself... i bought it and it came with a cartridge already inside.

     

    from the outside, all i can see about the film is E160.

     

    i guess if 160 is the ASA, then the light meter makes sense, no?

     

    does anyone know about E160 film?

     

    thanks again-

     

    Nick Norton

    ND filter for regular daylight?

    in Super-8

    Posted

    well i finally tossed some film in my canon 518 camera and when i went to shoot some test shots, the automatic exposure was either at f16 or closed. i was pointing the camera at a flower bed in bright daylight. does this sound right? i mean, i wasn't shooting at the sky or real bright colors. could the light meter in the camera be off?

     

    and if this sounds normal, and all i need is an ND filter... will my camera's automatic exposure take the filter into account, or would i need to shoot manual and bump it up a stop?

     

    thanks-

     

    Nick Norton

    Use a camera as a light meter?

    in Super-8

    Posted

    I purchased a Canon 518 SV camera, and everything seems to work just fine on it excpet the automatic exposure. It has manual exposure, but i do not own a light meter.

     

    I do however own a Canon 518 camera, which has some more problems such as it does not shoot when set to Slow Motion and it is not even capable of 24fps... but the automatic exposure on that camera seems to work just fine.

     

    Could i use my Canon 518 as a light meter, and then shoot manual exposure with my Canon 518 SV?

     

    does anyone see a problem with this? i thought maybe the camera would function differently with film in it because of the automatic ASA reading, but i wasn't sure.

     

    thanks-

     

    Nick Norton

    film temperature

    in Super-8

    Posted

    thanks, i plan on shooting the film next week... so it looks like i don't have to worry about it.

     

    -Nick Norton

     

    anyone know how long wein cell batteries typically last for?

    film temperature

    in Super-8

    Posted

    i just recieved my two cartridges of Plus-X and Ektachrome, and on the box it says the film should be stored at 55 degrees fahrenheit. is this only for extremely long storage periods, or should i keep my stock in the freezer until i need to shoot? also, should i keep the cartridges in the box until i want to shoot with them?

     

    and this is a little off topic, but does anyone know how long wein cell batteries typically last for?

     

     

    thanks-

     

    Nick Norton

    On-camera light meter

    in Super-8

    Posted

    well i finally got batteries for my Canon 518 light meter and i am a little confused on how it works.

     

    there are numbers at the top that i am guessing are f-stops. but wherever the meter goes, what is it telling me?

     

    does it adjust the aperature itself? like, is it telling me "there isn't enough sunlight so i am putting the f-stop to 1.8" or "there is too much light so i am putting the f-stop at 11"

     

    is that how it works?

     

    and also, i am guessing i would want the meter to stop in the middle around f4.

     

    am i correct on this?

     

    any help i would appreciate.

     

    thanks-

     

    Nick Norton

    ASA? help pleeaasse.

    in Super-8

    Posted

    okay, so i have enjoyed reading this thread. and of course i have a few comments.

     

    The "EE", that means Electronic Exposure.... same thing as auto. Just make sure you enter your ASA on the dial.

     

     

    Enter the ASA on the dial? i am near positive my camera does not have a dial for ASA. Should my camera detect the ASA automatically?

     

    i really appreciate all the help, i am impressed how much help is available on this forum.

     

    thanks-

     

    Nick Norton

    18fps vs. 24fps

    in Super-8

    Posted

    now i know that 24fps is the standard frame rate and that it is easier to blow up to 16mm or 35mm, but what about 18fps?

     

    i'm sure 24fps would look smoother than 18, but what exactly is the difference?

     

    would there be a time you would want to shoot 18 rather than 24?

     

    thanks-

     

    Nick Norton

    ASA? help pleeaasse.

    in Super-8

    Posted

    The issue with the Canon 518 is that it has no manual exposure capability. Also it reads the ASA automatically from the cartridge. Now in the past that wouldn't have been a problem. It was designed in an era where there were a handful of different film types and speeds (ASA). Today's film types and speeds are different from when the camera was built and what it was designed for. A lot of other cameras are the same way. A few models made by Nizo, Beaulieu, and possible other manufacturers were designed to accept a wide range of films speeds. Those cameras' light meters are still useable if so desired.

     

    The workaround used today is utilizing a separate light meter and setting the camera's exposure manually. The problem with the Canon 518, and other cameras out there, is it has no ability for manual exposure. It only has an exposure lock switch which must be constantly held down to work, it is labeled (EE). This wouldn't be so much a pain if either the camera's meter was designed for a range of film speeds instead of specific ones. In which case you could use the meter, then hold down the exposure lock. However, unlike other automatic cameras, you can't place the exposure lock in position without constantly holding it down. This becomes tiresome and easy to slip, not to mention awkward since you can't run any other controls on the camera while both hands are busy.

     

    So basically here's what you can do with the camera. You'll have to get a light meter, find the shutter speeds of your camera at the various frame rates, meter the light, point the camera at something until the automatic meter gives you the closest f-stop you need based on what your handheld meter says, then hold the exposure lock switch down and then shoot. Sound complicated and tedious? It is. I personally would recommend a different camera.

     

    One more note, if you are using the Ekatchrome 64T in daylight you will need to buy a separate 85B filter to put onto your camera to compensate since the film is designed for indoor use. You will then need to adjust your meter for the amount of light the filter "takes away" when placed over the lens, 2/3 stop I believe.

     

    Is any of this confusing? It is for a lot of people who are just getting into film, especially Super 8. Unfortunately it's not so easy to just get a camera, toss in a cartridge of film and point-and-shoot. Not without doing a little research and homework first. I teach Super 8 and 16mm film basics to a lot of new people, I find it a lot easier to learn if you have something you can visually see and be demonstrated to you. A great book is Cinematography by Kris Malkiewicz, and edition will work. You can pick up used older editions of the net for around $2-$5.

     

     

    i really appreciate all the help, although i am a bit confused on your information.

     

    on my canon auto zoom 518 there does not seem to be some of the functions you stated.

     

    for one, there is nothing on the camera labelled "EE". all i can see is a dial labeled "AUTO" and you can turn it so it says "MANUAL". the only other buttons on the camera are one that determines the frame rate, the switch for the in-camera filter, and automatic zoom controls.

     

    does anyone undertand what the dial is for? i am waiting for batteries i ordered offline for the light meter, so maybe i can figure that one out when the light meter is working.

     

    also, i was looking for the 85B filter but my lense has an awkward 47.5mm thread. anyone know where i can get one?

     

    thanks for all the help-

     

    Nick Norton

    ASA? help pleeaasse.

    in Super-8

    Posted

    I just got ahold of a Canon 518 camera, and i just orderd a stock of Ektachrome and a stock of PLUS-X film.

     

     

    i've done still photography and a lot of video stuff, but this is my first time with actual film.

     

     

    my main question is on ASA. i know it has something to do with film speed, but do i set that manually or is it something i have to be aware of? i'm very, very confused on ASA and was wondering if anyone could help me out.

     

    Also, any tips for someone shooting their first role or Ektachrome and Plus-X with a canon 518?

     

    thanks-

     

    Nick Norton

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