Scott Di Lalla

Yes..bought that and used it the entire shoot, plus two winter jackets sleeves and a thick towel..still not enough. Pav-Deep - you are definitely underestimating - I did at first. With super8 you have to take in consideration that there will be times that the cartridge is faulty, you need to get a scene right or you just want some insurance because you don't have it in your budget to do a lot of pick-up shots. My shots were planned out to the T, and for some reason I had to use a bit more than planned. Matt - I think those shows are archived, but thanks for listening anyway.

Ok, I got the numbers from my shoot: Film Stock Pricing: Kodak Super8mm film 50ft roll - $15.40 (student pricing can often be negotiated, try requesting test rolls for free) Lab Processing: Alpha Cine - $13 per 50ft roll Prep - $8 per run HD Transfer: Lightpress Approx $0.75 per foot Plus file capture time $125 per hour @ 1:1 Plus $0.50 per GB storage Plus Hard drive (provided by us) HD SR archiving $100 approx. per tape (optional) Keep in mind that all these prices are negotiable, so do your best to chip away at it.

Chris, to be honest I will have to talk with my producer to get the exact amount. As stated above, I wasn't exactly sure, but at the same time I wanted to give everyone an idea of what it might cost. However, I do think it's important to get the exact amount on here in case someone is interested in shooting on super8. That said, give me a day or two and I will get the exact numbers for the film cost, processing, and the HD transfer. Sorry about that. We bought our film directly from Kodak and because we bought it in bulk, they gave us a nice break. Thanks to Kodak's rep, Chris Russo (who is no longer there), for being such a champion. And once again, thanks for the kind words and support. Will have a price update soon.

Well, yes, it is a bit pricey, but when you really break down the cost between digital and small gauge film, they are actually not that far off. When you take into account the digital camera and the equipment you need to get the most out of it, things start to add up. Also, it is trickier to light digital. You would have to spend more time figuring ways out to limit the clippings of your lights and shadows. The latitude that film (negative) has is unparalleled. That all said, film is still more expensive, but it is very much in range. Yes, I was only considering digital, initially, but I was also searching for ways on how to get a unique look out of digital. I spent a month researching and studying different ways on how to make digital not only look like film, but ways on how I can give it a sense of texture as well. There came a point I just sat back and asked myself if I want it to look like film so bad, why not just shoot in film. Then I thought, ok, what is the cheapest way to shoot with film? Naturally, it would be to use the smallest gauge available. After I switched gears, a whole new world became apparent to me. I began turning up everything super8, until I saw some mind blowing examples of what super8 could look like and discovered that was the look I was searching for all along. We are staying in digital at the moment. The 1014xl-s is an amazing camera. Oh, let me know what blimp ideas you guys come up with. Ideally, the lens should be encased as well. Most of the noise slips through the lens.

Just noticed I left out a zero...I shot 18,000ft of film.

We shot 18,00ft (360 cartridges) of film. The length of the movie was 90min. You're right, I may have quoted you a bit high, $20 seems about right. All the companies worked with us too, so I think they gave us some breaks here and there. It was great to see people still side with the underdog. In regard to the shooting part, I had a lot of things really thought out. I wanted to shoot the entire film hand held so I made my own shoulder mounted camera rig for my camera. I didn't want the shaky look like Blair Witch - I wanted more of a "run and gun" documentary feel. Although I was aware that the frame would be cropped, I didn't have to worry too much because it was moving most of the time. If I could go back and do some things over I definitely would have put more time in creating my blimp. My blimp was only a few old winter jacket sleeves placed over the camera. Unfortunately, all my tests were done without any film loaded in the camera, so it seemed almost completely quite. I remember during day one of the shoot the camera was considerably louder with film in it. Naturally! Just something I'd completely overlooked. I added a thick towel to my custom design and went forward with the shoot. It actually silenced the camera about 80%, but that wasn't enough. So, we had a ton of work done in post. They did a great job getting rid of the camera sound. It's not perfect, but I feel it matches the gritty feel of the film. I will be interested in what blimp ideas you come up with. Oh, we also had the cameras crystal synced. Yes, we have so much behind the scenes footage. Also, for now, we have a ton of photos on our I Am ZOZO facebook page that you can check out. http://www.facebook.com/scott.dilalla#!/iamzozo Good luck with your project! In the future, if you ever need to get in touch with me with some more question you can always email at oneworldceo@yahoo.com

Matt, I appreciate your kind words and I will do my best to answer all your questions. Budget - This is always a tough one to answer accurately because of differed pay, but I can give you an idea of what it will cost to shoot on Super8 film. One 2 1/2min S8 cartridge (50ft) is around $25 - process cost was $25 - and an HD digital transfer was yet another $25. So, you would have to figure every 50ft of film, from soup to nuts, is $75. How many days of principle photography? Fourteen straight days and then a total of 4 days for pick-up shots. However, because I was shooting on film I took my actors and rehearsed every scene with them for two weeks. I felt, in theory, this would limit the amount of retakes I would have to do. It worked! Where did you process the film? We processed the film at Alpha Cine. We shot the film in Seattle, so not only was it convenient for us, they're just a great company, especially when it comes to handling S8. http://www.alphacine.com Transfer the film? We had our film transferred at Lightpress, also in Seattle. http://lightpress.tv They were great in so many ways. They are also one, in only a few companies, that will scan S8 to HD. Each frame is scanned individually to give you a true 2k file. Other companies may say they do an HD transfer, but it might be only an HD "up-res", not a full scan. Did you edit on Final Cut or with Adobe Premiere Pro? Final cut pro. Was your Canon's gate widened, or did you you simply for 1.85:1? No, I looked into it, but decided not to widen the gate. I thought for that little bit more of room on my frame it wasn't worth the risk of having light leak in, and it certainly wasn't worth the price. Shot it normally and cropped in post. Hope this helped Matt. I will be happy to answer more question, so please ask away. Cheers! Scott

Hey Guys, I've finally finished my feature, "I Am Zozo" shot entirely on Kodak's Vision3 Negative 200T 7213 - Super8mm. I also wanted to say thanks again, to this community, for answering some questions I had while I was going through a handful of test shots last year. Here is a small clip of the film: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFIpSq2_iOA Story: http://www.iamzozomovie.com . I Am ZoZo is about five young people who play with a Ouija board and attract the attention of the malevolent Ouija demon ZoZo. The film is based on widely reported real experiences with this ancient and malevolent spirit that attaches itself to people exclusively through Ouija boards. Shot last Halloween on location on San Juan Island, WA, I Am ZoZo was shot entirely on Super8mm film. Cheers! Scott

Oh yes. Luckily, this project will be lit with very little artificial light. Thank you for your input.

Hey,thanks for your input. And yes, a student looking to gain more experience would be perfect for this project.

Hello, I've been a member on here for a while, but mostly lurked and absorbed. I forget if I have ever introduced myself. Anyway, my name is Scott and I am a filmmaker here in Los Angeles. I'm off to Seattle in a couple of days to shoot my film, and I was wondering if anyone can recommend a good camera shop? It will be my first time in Seattle and I will be staying there for two months. I usually go to Samy's here in L.A. Great shop for pro and consumer needs. I don't think there is a Samy's in Seattle, but I am opened to all suggestions. I am also looking for a Lighting Technician that would work for no pay...where would be the best place to post that? Thanks in advanced. -Scott

Brian, I can't tell you how much I appreciate your input. You're right about this set-up - it's not ideal. The 2k is non-directional so I seem to be wasting a lot of light. I don't have a 2k blonde, but would I get a similar effect if I put two baby 1k Tungstens? Thank you.

Here some tests. I shot it with my DSLR. I did touch the exposure, but I shot it a little underexposed to capture the feel I am looking for. My light meter set at 24fps, iso400 gave me a reading of f/s 1.4. I think the light levels are way too low to shoot on Vison2 200T, so I am thinking about using Vision2 500T. However, I am afraid 500T may be too grainy. I look forward to hearing any thoughts regarding this set-up and film choice. Set-up: 2k and a 1k Test1 Test 2

Yeah, I'm going to give them a try. I bought two shower curtains ...one is a very thin white and the other is a frosty clear. These are the lights I am thinking about setting up behind them: 1k 2k

Great point Brian. Now I am wondering at what height and angle I should position it at. I'm thinking high and angling downwards. I'm still looking for a nice piece of 216 for a good price, but for now I have a cheap shower curtain that seems to be softening the light just right. I may try both set ups. I did a test yesterday and found the 1/4 CTB was working great. It cooled it enough to make it look moody, and left over enough very usable light. This test was inside, so I am still curious to see how it will look from outside. I will try that some time this weekend. Thanks!