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David

What I've done is record to a Firestore using the QT record mode then offload the clips to your computer(a media hard drive), then using QT Pro you can trim the clips, save them, rename them and upload them. You maintain the DVCPROHD codec so it's all good.

Best

Dow Haynor

Golden Lamb Productions

I shoot with an HDX900 and need to find the most economic way to capture footage and allow me to select clips to pass onto a library. I need to send them uncompressed QT movies on a drive, starting out the process with DVCPRO HD tapes. Is my only way to get FCP or is there a more economical way?

 

Thanks

 

David

www.lunaseafilms.com

I'd like to hear what people have to say but since nobody has answered you yet what I think of

is that:

 

1. In video people seem to go to faster shutter speeds for action, such as capturing golf wings,

but isn't the 24P look derived partially from the 1/48th shuter speed and what would happen

if you changed that?

 

2. Film is 24 f.p.s. and everything gets shot. People do change shutter speeds but I think that

it's different because the video 1/48th is meant to approxiamate the 1/50th film exposure

time at 24 f.p.s..

It might be fun to do a test. 24P still is going to have a look because it is 24P but maybe

you can change the shutter speed and get crisper action. You'll need light though because

with a faster shutter speed you're going to have to open up. Good luck.

I'd like to hear what people have to say but since nobody has answered you yet what I think of

is that:

 

1. In video people seem to go to faster shutter speeds for action, such as capturing golf wings,

but isn't the 24P look derived partially from the 1/48th shuter speed and what would happen

if you changed that?

 

2. Film is 24 f.p.s. and everything gets shot. People do change shutter speeds but I think that

it's different because the video 1/48th is meant to approxiamate the 1/50th film exposure

time at 24 f.p.s..

It might be fun to do a test. 24P still is going to have a look because it is 24P but maybe

you can change the shutter speed and get crisper action. You'll need light though because

with a faster shutter speed you're going to have to open up. Good luck.

I'd like to hear what people have to say but since nobody has answered you yet what I think of

is that:

 

1. In video people seem to go to faster shutter speeds for action, such as capturing golf wings,

but isn't the 24P look derived partially from the 1/48th shuter speed and what would happen

if you changed that?

 

2. Film is 24 f.p.s. and everything gets shot. People do change shutter speeds but I think that

it's different because the video 1/48th is meant to approxiamate the 1/50th film exposure

time at 24 f.p.s..

It might be fun to do a test. 24P still is going to have a look because it is 24P but maybe

you can change the shutter speed and get crisper action. You'll need light though because

with a faster shutter speed you're going to have to open up. Good luck.

Jim

Thanks for the reply, I did do some tests with the shutter speed and came up with some possibilities. It's really about the "look" and the like you mentioned about getting a crisper action, which you can accomplish, and which is what I was really trying to provide. I know what I like now it's a matter of showing the director his options.

Thanks Again

We are shooting a concert type video and the musicians, especially the drummers will have fast action happening. We want to shoot 24p for the look but I wasn't sure if 30p may be better for the reproduction of that action. Any advice ?

Thanks

DH

I would say that any dub out a deck, composite or component will give them a 29.97 60I tape albeit from footage that was captured at 24fps (24p and 24pa).  The tape will have a 3 to 2 pulldown associated with it at the 24pa cadence of (correct me if I am wrong) 2:3:3:2.  This being for the proper frame removal by a firewire based NLE specifically FCP but I think AVID also.  So dub away if its a 29.97 copy they want.

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OK that's what I was thinking, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't confused. As I understand it, the video has the pulldown already, then when you ingest to your system you remove the pulldown.(correct me if I'm wrong). Whew, way to heady after a long day. Thanks for the input.

D.

 

Are you dubing from a deck or your camera?  If camera, are you using the SDI output board?

As I understand it... the 24p and 24pa footage is interlaced and put to tape at 29.97 in the camera, but the pull down cadence is ordered differently between the two.  I believe that you will get 29.97 footage out the SDI of the camera(although 8bit).  24pa footage is used for a project to be posted in a 24frame timeline as the firewire equiped panasonic decks can remove the extra frames at ingest into your NLE.  Hope that this is some help.  Contact me as a may be able to help if you need a deck.

 

Taylor

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I was going to dub out of a deck, composite or component, I can also come out firewire but that doesn't help going to a deck for their copy, does it? There was no plan to do this originally but now they want want this dub.

Dow

Client wants a copy of 24pa material I shot, if I dub it straight out are they getting 24 frame material or 29.97? And if they want 29.97 do I need to run it into my editor , convert then dub out? Thanks, just having a long day.

I've heard several people say switching brands gave them no problems - but I've also heard the exact opposite.  I'd strongly suggest against it - if it *did* clog your camera, you'd be screwed.  Not worth the risk IMHO.

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Yeh I had heard of some problems but only from one user. I know with my beta rigs you pick a tape and stick with it. Thanks for the input.

Just wondering if anyone has had bad experiences with any one brand of tape with the 100A.

Well it sure isn't easily bypassed. I called Roger Macie (he set it up for me as he does all my Beta gear) and he hasn't run into this problem so he refered me to you. I know you think I'm crazy but it just will not work again. You said you tried your camera but did you lock it then go back and unlock it? Something is either wrong or there are other buttons that need to be pushed to get this unlocked. I really appreciate you finding an answer, for now it's not a problem I have a shoot with it on Sunday but I happened to lock it in the mode I'll be shooting in, thank God, but I'll need a fix.

Thanks for your help Jan.

Dow :)

Jan,

I tried it again, and I know it sounds crazy but the option menu will not come up. It worked when I locked it. I did just that, hold the light button down and briefly hit the menu button. It did it once but it got stupid or something. Is there another way around this?

Thanks

Dow

Yep, I've done that and it got me to the menu, where I changed it to lock, then I went back to unlock it and I can't get the options menu back. I've tried short pushes, long pushes on the menu button, nothing seems to work.

Dow

I locked the menu items and now can't unlock it, using the directions in Goodmans Guide , I don't have the main manual with me so can anyone tell me how to unlock the ENG security option?

Dow