jake ross

yeah this film will be amazing. the trailer is very brooding..... I've read 2 script reviews thus far and all signs point to iconic cinematography, amazing character studies (dark), socio/political/religious overtones... should be one of the best films made in awhile absolutely cant wait

no. the film is called Cavite http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0428303/

its a very lofi handheld feature that was shot with the dvx100, on location in the Philippines.... worth checking out... raw and gritty but suprisingly well done... 2 man crew/cast, absolutely low/no budget

no sir, not at all. not trying to create more argument and minutia.... what'd you think of cavite?

(from apples dashboard dictionary) kinetic = of, relating to, or resulting from motion. I would say that the majority of steadicam shots and handheld shots have some sort of motion within them... even if its just the slightest, tiniest frame jiggle.... but I feel like were now engaging in very minute and meaningless nitpicking.... I'll stop :-) by the way, what'd everyone think of cavite?

not saying handheld looks **exactly** like steadicam or vice versa.... just saying that they both are kinetic and have more in common with eachother than locked off shots.

I've only seen a very few limited number of NYPD shows, so I cant say I'm the most well versed on its technical specs... I was mainly refering to the current style going on in TV today (I wasnt tryin to point out NYPD exclusively). Steadicam IMO is a form of kinetic movement akin to handheld but alot more elegant. Which is what good handheld or shoulder operating can resemble. Excessive jerking, shaking, zooms, and pans which serve no real purpose to the story are mainly what I'm speaking of. I tend to look at really well done, story driven, tension heightening, kinetic camera work as one in the same.... whether it be a really long and well rehersed steadicam shot (Goodfellas, the kitchen/club scene) or a frantic handheld shot (Narc, the beginning drug/junkie chase) I guess I'm "technically" wrong by lumping steadicam and non-steadicam shots together but they create the same, if not similar effects.

yeah very true. I feel handheld serves a purpose, if the story of scene calls for it. The opening of traffic was a great example of how it heightened the feel of actually being out in the desert with the 2 cops. Excessive NYPD/Battlestar Galactica/24/most TV use of it becomes gimmicky and and IMO is just a trend thing.... if a new trend came along that say was "shooting upside down" they would jump on it.... but yeah, the important thing to remember (IM humble O) is that film/cinematic language is constantly evolving and changing, like everything else on earth. You have to evovle and change with it, or at least stay on top of how the language is evovling. Evolution is one thing, gimmicks are another. Children of Men/Babel I thought used the style well.... in particularly because of the editing.... longer lingering takes, more choreography, etc. It was the frantic quick cutting style of 24/MTV/Domino/etc. I *think* because we are used to seeing handheld in conjunction with quick cuts and montage editing, COM/Babel were interesting because they lacked this. Also Gerry by Gus Van Zant is another great example. Béla Tarr's Werckmeister Harmonies is another good example. Now this is not too say that Babel didnt have its share of montage editing, because it did for sure (the Mexico sequence) but the opening of the film establishes a sort of mood/vibe that is somewhat congruent to Gerry or COM cheers