Stuart Baker

I just had an afterthought. I recently shot some 7280 outdoors in bright sunlight. (Ektachrome 64T). I shot this footage with the *SUN* setting in place, and the footage came out normal. No blue tint. If this is the case, then it doesn't make sense that the filter is "kicked out" or removed. If this is the case, then the real question is what should a person do if he is shooting daylight balanced film outdoors? Does the sun setting mean two different things depending upon the film stock? Does it intuitively know to remove the filter for daylight balanced film, but to keep it in place for tungsten balanced film? Or do I need to actually switch the filter slide to *bulb* for daylight balanced film (unlikely and counterintuitive). Or do I actually need to mask the orange filter in the camera with an external blue filter? It seems to me that the true test is to shoot an oudoor balanced film outdoors, and see what happens.... sb

I will assume that "kick out" (remove) is the behavior of the filter when working with tungsten film, and shoot a test using an 85 filter outdoors with the 500T stock. I'll post the results for this model camera (814 Autozoom). Any thoughts on the pros and cons of shooting with an Orange 85A vs. 85B ? Thanks, Stuart

So the Sun icon equals the Orange 85 filter in place, right? So when using 500T indoors with tungsten lights, (and a forced orange 85 that I can't remove), what filter would you recommend to negate the Orange 85?

I don't have the XLS. The 814 Autozoom is a different model. The bulb position isn't an option when working with the 500T. It forces the slide down into the sunlight mode, just as it does with daylight balanced film. I think it is older tungsten stocks that allow for the slide option to function in the bulb mode...

That all makes good sense, but what if I am shooting a true daylight balanced film. Do I still use the Sunshine setting? Do I shoot the daylight balanced film outdoors with the Orange 85 in place? Or do I shoot in the bulb position so the Orange 85 is removed. That seems rather counter intuitive. I don't think that would have been the camera manufacturer's intent... Thanks, sb

I have the 814 Autozoom, and it forces you to use the *Sun* setting when shooting with daylight film. In other words, it locks out the ability to slide the filter to the *Bulb* setting. Oddly enough, the Kodak 500T stock forces the same situation, even though my undestanding is that this is a tungsten balanced film... The manual says that with daylight film the "CCA" filter is automatically removed (*Sun* setting). But the manual also says that when using tungsten film, use the *Sun* setting when outdoors, enabling the "CCA" filter, or the *Bulb* setting when shooting with indoor light to remove the "CCA" Filter. All this woudl suggest to me that somehow the *Sun* setting with daylight film represents no filter, but when using Tungsten film the *Sun* setting represents the "CCA" filter in place. Presumably the "CCA" filter is an Orange 85 filter. How can one setting represent two different things depending on the film being used? Or am I missing something here? Thanks!

It appears I have no choice with my Super 8 camera but to shoot with outdoors balanced film with the CCA filter set to "Sun". I'm assuming this means that the Orange 85 is in place. But the Orange 85 is for daylight shooting with tungsten film. Is it ok to shoot outdoors with an Orange 85 if you're using outdoor balanced film? Or must it be negated with another filter?