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Bob Speziale

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  1. It's not that people with talent don't have to work hard to learn the skills necessary to do and keep their jobs, it's more that they have an undefinable ability to excel at what they do. The Beatles, the Stones, Clapton were talented. They garnered millions of fans when they were in their 20's, after just a couple of years in the business. Spielberg, Coppola, Kubrick, Hitchcock were talented. Picasso was talented. What they did clicked with tens of millions of people. It was unique and fresh and people loved it and still do decades later. These people are all rarities. 10,000 people audition for American idol and one very talented person gets to win the title. None of these people had connections. What they had was talent and a work ethic that was recognized and which propelled them to the top of their fields. A million other people without that talent can learn the skills but they can't do what these people did.

    ....The "one in a million super talented extraordinary person" mentality is mostly an American thing I think ...talent being something people born with rather than something they can learn... talent is not their own achievement, just something they got in birth like three nipples or good hearing :lol:

  2. Well of course this is true at the present time in American films. As I said in another post I haven't seen a good one in several years now. There's no quality, no talent on display. It's all a quick dash to the bank. The same is true in the music industry. The same is true in politics. The dumbing down of America is complete.

     

    I don't think talent is really mandatory in film business most of the time. It will help a lot on certain type of projects and make life easier but normally you are not making auteur films where you can really decide everything by yourself (the producers and investors and distributors will say NO all the time and may alter your work even so much that it is barely recognizable anymore) . it is an INDUSTRY anyway, the main goal is not to make high class art but to produce entertainment for the masses which mandates whole different skill set than just making good movies which don't sell.

     

    I don't think talent is even that rare. Nobody can do films without training and talent could only help with the basic storytelling part and maybe a little bit with the visuals and the rest needs to be learned... and one needs to train oneself with the visualization skills, editing etc. anyway like everybody else, talented or not.

     

    The "one in a million super talented extraordinary person" mentality is mostly an American thing I think (the society pushing people down and the enermous amount of competition in all fields, making it mandatory to differentiate yourself from others to get forward. people also love Cinderella stories) , it is just not a very realistic approach to film industry where it is more handy to be very persistent and absolutely fireproof and to never give up even if it takes 20 years to archive something (you will just try another route and explore and train yourself more and more in the process until you're somewhere you like to be.

    Finding your own style is of course mandatory but that is not "talent" , rather a SKILL which develops with enough time and training (talent being something people born with rather than something they can learn... talent is not their own achievement, just something they got in birth like three nipples or good hearing :lol:

    Remember Disney's Cinderella? she had some SKILLS (housecleaning, singing etc.) , her TALENT being that her own shoe fits her foot B) how mentally ill poor person talking to animals got married to a prince? good contacts, lots of help from others and pure luck ;) )

     

    Social skills are really really important though and may make lots of difference. at least they will make progress much faster. Talent not important, SKILLS are ;)

  3. First is talent. A handful of people in a million have it. You can learn the science and craft of cinematography but without talent you can never achieve lasting success. You may get work, you may direct low budget films or soap operas or commercials, or you may get nowhere. But talent is rare and recognizeable and without it you can't go very far.

    The ability to sell yourself and get jobs.

    A record of doing good work once you get it.

    A good business sense and the ability to make money for yourself and others.

    The ability to motivate people.

  4. Hi,

    I am a new member here. I'm retired and am interested in photography, video, editing, music, and a bunch of other hobbies and pursuits. My friend and fellow retiree Bruce and I jam about once a week over the internet. Here is a video I made from clips we each shot of us adding to a live jam with additional vocals and instruments. I enjoy shooting and editing. I have no expectation of more than doing cinematography for enjoyment.

     

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