Ezra Bassin-Hill

Is this still available?

Hey David, are you still interested in making oarts for a GsMo? 

Please let me know.

Can anyone who has used /owned the camera tell me their practical experiences?

Hey Joe,

 I’m hoping to make a move before the end of the year if possible. I’m in LA. Let me know thanks!

I’m looking for full or partial CP 16-R or GSMO’s.

thanks!

Let me know. Ebassinhill@gmail.com 

Thanks Joe! Sent you a dm

Anybody have a package for sale?

Highly fascinating. 

i found someone to do this work now as custom  but I believe he is not in good enough health to accomplish  it now.

On 11/25/2021 at 12:13 PM, Tyler Purcell said:

 

Let me know!

On 5/1/2021 at 11:19 AM, Tyler Purcell said:

First you want a camera with an adjustable shutter angle (shutter speed), which none of the cameras discussed can do. Yet ALL cameras at higher or lower FPS will of course have a different relative shutter speed. 

I didn’t realize the EBM has a 170° shutter, but am I correct in assuming it’s tied to the pull down mechanism and isn’t variable?

I also like to utilize narrower or wider shutters at my discretion for the effects. 

You can absolutely select the relative shutter in a reflex mirror camera which is why i’m looking for one.

Then you claim you're looking for a professional tool, but the S/M is not a professional camera anymore, it's a hobbyist camera due to the lack of having the features you discuss above/below. 

I’m looking for a small lightweight 16mm camera w a 180° shutter(at least) , selectable frame rate, runs daylight spools, has 100% accurate video assist for framing.

 I’m looking for a professional tool.

Then you throw the Bolex under the bus and in the same sentence state that you think this heavily modified ST will have more value? 

super 16 pl mount arri st has actual value whereas a bolex will get rented to students or something.

For someone who works in the film industry, why don't you start by explaining your application (something I've asked many times but never got an answer to) so that we can help guide you into a camera system that WILL work. Just because Visual Products and Du-All have been successful at making a camera similar to what you want, doesn't mean they work well. 

 

You’re still talking to me? I really suggest getting outside...

It’s clear you’re dead set on being a a keeper of the regular 16mm gate. Pun intended.

i look forward to your youtube channel where you claim the wrong film gate dimensions then say it was a typo.

as far as the bolex, you tried to get me on board with one then when i asked to see the stuff you’d shot on you said, i never do and sent links to student projects.

i’ve come to grips with not having selectable shutter so everything else being equal I still believe the arri 16s modified is a better camera for my purposes, which I’ll remind you, you don’t need to know, but I did tell you enough. And you were helpful, the EBM is interesting and if my arri 16s plan doesn’t work I might go that direction.

I appreciated Dom letting me know the reasons behind why a newly manufactured shutter might be needed as well as the scratching and scuffing issue as opposed to your ambiguous and authoritative “if you want your film destroyed” comment.

we’re here looking for info on film and tools. Why does it have to be taken so personally? You’d be doing a load of good if you’d explain your thoughts more. Why do you believe that despite evidence of successful conversions it won’t work now? 

4 hours ago, Tyler Purcell said:

I literally talk to people about this on the daily. I was being a bit antagonistic with my response because it's such a repetitive discussed non-problem. If everyone who owned a film camera just shot with it instead of wanting something they don't have, Kodak would never have any financial problems. With 16mm the holy grail is Super 16 because god forbid you shoot with a fine grain stock and get a 4k scan with your camera that has a built-in, non-replaceable, non-recenterable lens. I get the hobbyists who just want to muck with cameras, blowing thousands to have something nobody else has, most of which leave their cameras on a shelf collecting dust. At the same time, anyone who gets bent out of shape over the comment "I don't know why people are so obsessed with Super 16. It's (mistype, I meant to say 2) 1mm of added image really isn't the end of the world. Scan at a slightly higher resolution and put little tiny matte bars at the top and bottom and say it's "super 16" nobody will know." To which two other people in this very same page agreed with.  

My comment was constructive, it states the clear and obvious; why bother? When I ask for advice on what car to buy and someone says "why the crap would you buy that car" that makes me think, "maybe I should do more research" and ya know what, hopefully Dom's explanation above, does explain why the thought process of modifying this camera should be examined a bit. 

I have both s16 and standard 16 cameras and no, with fine grain stock, you can not tell the difference, period. I will prove it in an upcoming video for my youtube series, just so everyone is on the same page and can put these questions to rest.

 

4 hours ago, Tyler Purcell said:

Who is making you a new shutter in 2021? Does your tech know they need to manufacture a shutter or they just going to glue a piece of metal to the end of it and call it a day. I personally can't wait to see what you wind up with after ignoring everyones warnings. 

it's interesting you're claiming your misinformation on s16 gate size was a typo when you had said the exact same wrong size before. I think you might need to take a big step back and learn to admit mistakes as well as maybe take a break from the responding to us "helpless" souls.

as I said before I appreciated you giving info, but it was unsolicited and apparently at times incorrect.

This question was for Dom who had showed the capacity to share knowledge without feeling threatened by other film users with different ideas than you.

 I’m going to assume it will be ashutter extension just like almost every other s16 conversion.

 Does your precious $5k bolex install a new shutter?

Literally no one had asked you what camera to buy. But we are all awaiting your youtube masterclasses on the subject.

7 hours ago, Dom Jaeger said:

Some people are a bit over the top with their advice, and can seem unnecessarily antagonistic, I agree. I don’t think there’s any need to denigrate people for looking into options. 

However be careful of people offering services at prices that seem too good to be true. When it comes to camera modification, anyone can easily open out a gate. What’s harder is making sure there will not be scratches or scuffing to the film, or that your viewfinder matches the frame, or that the shutter still covers the entire exposed area during pull down, or that the lens is centred to the new frame, or that the flange depth hasn’t shifted at all when the gate was removed.

Some of these issues are not a dealbreaker for people, some people like having scratches or obvious film artefacts, or don’t mind if they can’t see the exact frame they’re exposing, or if the images aren’t as sharp as they should be. It may not matter to them if a lens isn’t centred and has a vignette on one side, or a zoom tracks off to one side. I’m a trained camera tech, so I look at these things differently to a young filmmaker just wanting to experiment with film. But it’s worth knowing what you’re getting into, what issues might get introduced, and whether the expense of a modification is worth paying for, as opposed to investing in a better lens or a head or lights for example.

There is a lot of interest in 16mm these days, and unfortunately there are people with  limited knowledge offering services to make a quick buck. I’ve had a few Super 16 converted Bolexes in for repair recently that were full of problems, and the buyers angry after having paid decent money for them expecting them to work properly. Some other cameras just aren’t good candidates for conversion, like Scoopics or early 16mm Arriflexes.

But then, one of the attractions of film is it’s experimental qualities, and people have been screwing with cameras and lenses since day one. As long as people aren’t getting ripped off, it’s all good.

Dom,

 I’m curious what issues with an arri 16s might you have with conversion. I found a tech referred through visual products who says he has done the convert  many  times. Just curious what i should be asking about.

Have you looked on ebay? There are already converted scoopics. Try contacting Visual Products. Rick is extremely nice and knows everyone across the country it seems. Du-all camera is also extremely nice and may have answers to your questions.

Whatever you do, don’t mind the haters and gate keepers. One of the above posters spent his entire day attempting to help me and disputing what I wanted to do with a camera and wrote it off. Just today I found the conversion tech to do the work and the price is extremely reasonable despite otherwise expert opinions.  Only you understand why you may want to work how you do. 

Biggest issue for me is non reflex viewing, non variable 180° shutter, and no ability to shoot 22fps

dr bolex converted an arri 16s?

That’s who i was hoping to find! His number doesn’t seem to be connected anymore though.

Arri 16 st.

What about converting to PL mount?

Yeah I spoke with them. I’m guessing that means you havent found anyone to do the conversion? Maybe we can team together and convince someone it’s worthwhile.

Does anyone know a tech who does this service for arri 16s as well as swapping to PL Mount?

I’m looking for a classic pro. Anyone selling?