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Thank you for your indepth reply Mr. Mullen, I always appreciate your insightful posts. And thanks for bringing me up to speed on the forum rules. I will make the necessary changes. Rick

I said this a while back, almost a year ago and some people got real mad, rude even. Some were nice, some agreed and some had their own unique input, which is great, one can always learn. In the last year, a good amount of movies have been shot digitally (video, hd, whatever you want to call it), this time next year, even more movies are going to be shot digitally. It is taking over, the public is getting used to it, and you will too. You got used to cell phones, remote controls, digital cameras, hd tv, the list goes on. Embrace digital, but love film. Rick

Digital is taking over.

Really beautiful screen grabs. Did you crop it or use an anamorphic adapter? All the best, Rick

Actually, I was just at the store today and was watching several 16/9 tv's playing 2.35 movies and it didn't look that bad. The black bars on the top and bottom were even less than a 1.85 movie on a 4:3. So it looks like 2.35 is the way to go. I guess I was always watching 2.35 movies on my 4:3 tv and forgot about the world of 16:9 tv's evolving. So we're all good, thanks for your input. Rick

I love this forum, I really do. It makes the internet fun again. Rick

Hi John, thanks for the informative reply and for setting me straight on the exact AR's. Also, I bookmarked that site and will be scouring it soon. I know with film, you really only have two ARs to use, flat or scope. But in filming for DVD but still trying to give the audience a somewhat cinematic feel, there are more options with the AR you use, thus you can make something creative and unique, as long as you framed for that specific AR. It's a little bit of a tough call because on tv's 4:3 and 16:9, you want to use as much screen as possible, but at the same time, you want the widescreen feel. So that's why the 2:20 AR looks like an attractive solution. Any thoughts? Regards, Rick

Hi Mark, That's funny. The Robber thinks he's in the clear and finally rid of this kid but here in the distance comes this kid running after him. The Robber would have to leave something else behind though because then we lose the comical EXT shot of him running away from the car still wearing his mask and holding the bag of money. (Plus he can't take off his mask because that would enable the kid to I.D. him and even the kid doesn't want that). It would be funny though. So we can just add something else the Robber would leave behind. Yeah, I'm down. That's all I was hoping for, for someone to make it if they wanted. We can go back and forth via e-mail, see what has to be worked on and you'll have a completed script and the freedom and flexibility to adapt it as you see fit. Presently, I changed the end to make it shorter (the one presently online), as opposed to the earlier version you read, but maybe something in the middle of the two would be just right for it. So Mr. Williams, for the sake of not inundating our fellow forum friends with e-mails every time we add to this string, perhaps we should continue via e-mail. My e-mail is fieryphoenixe@yahoo.com I agree Capitan, I hope by the time it's all said and done, it would even get your seal of approval. :D And special thanks to everyone on this thread. I will be printing out this thread and going through it to double check what I would have to change because I do appreciate everyone's comments. Also, if this short is made, I would definitely want all who contributed here to see it. A collaborative effort. Rick

P.S. - I have already started to make revisions I think is necessary from everyone's valuable feedback on this thread. Rick :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I would say your best bet is to go to the bookstore and find a book on it. It will give you more of a full view of what you need to do, more than you can receive here. Also, after the book is written, the rules for submitting screenplays, fiction and non-fiction to agents/publishers differ and you'll need to know what those rules are. All the best to you, Rick

(Mark, what did you have in mind?) Wow, this is serious. I didn't expect all this when I woke up this morning. I have to say I do understand everyone's point of view, even the Captain's. I sent this to two writer friends and the general consesus is either you see it clearly or you have some serious problems with it. I believe it all comes down to vision or maybe aligning your vision to someone else's. I do not mean this as a flaw, please let me explain. The other day I stumbled upon the script to the "Pirates of the Carribean." A movie I love, a movie I saw five times in the theatre and hundreds of times on DVD. I even have the soundtrack. I know every word, scene angle, cut, everything. If I was stuck on an island with a big screen tv and dvd player and allowed one DVD, I might pick this one. It's one of the top three. I love everything about the movie, the story, the visuals, the pacing, the characters. Keira Knightly is hot, Johnny Depp is very entertaining, Orlando Bloom does pretty good, and the rest of the characters. So anyway, when I happily stumbled onto this script and started reading it, I was shocked when the words were dead on the screen. They had no life what's so ever. They didn't scream out at me. I may as well been reading one of the millions of movie scripts littered on the internet. I was shocked, how could this be the move I cherish? It came down to, I didn't see it. It happens to everyone. We're all different. I didn't have the vision that the movie turned out to be, not even close. It was almost scary. I'm sure you can argue I may have been comparing what I read to the movie. Naw, I felt no connection between what I was reading and the movie. I realized the producers and directors and everyone else for that matter added their vision to the story, whether in art or acting. So, now we're back here to "The Get Away" haha, what a funny name. I believe and think this story is good, and if done, the producer/director would add his vision to the mix, as well as the characters. Could it be tweaked? Ofcourse, but I believe the root story, the premise, is strong. I can easily picture it in my mind as I read it. But that's just me and a few others. Thanks all for your time. I do welcome your posts. :D Rick

Well, I'm definitely listening to what you're saying. That's why I posted the script here, for feedback. Sometimes it's hard to accept criticism but if you learn to see what you can apply, you can be better, so I'm definely listening to you and the others on this thread. I will definitely keep polishing it. All the best and thank you for your time, :D Rick

Yeah I was going to do it in post and frame for desired AR. Good deal, thanks. Rick

I was thinking of the 2.20 ratio. That's what I believe that trailer was show in, real close anyway. It was just a little bigger on screen than the 2.35 ratio. This way the best of both worlds could be attained. Rick

I didn't start shooting yet. I was going to go with 2.35 but thought since it was a DVD release, and most people's tv's are 1.33 or 1.78, maybe it wasn't the best use of their screens although I wanted the scope feel. That's why I was asking if there was a ratio between 2.35 (but I would like to use more screen space) and 1.85 (which is a little too high). Just for the record, I love 2.35, and 1.85 when viewing on tv. It's just this movie has a set of rules of its own. Thanks, :D Rick