Premium Member Michael Nash Posted February 16, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted February 16, 2004 I worked on a project recently that got a "great deal" on some unreleased stock from Kodak, I believe called Special Order 80. Rumor had it that the stock was developed for a TV show that never happened, and Kodak is trying to unload the surplus. I can see how this kind of thing can happen, but I'm curious about this particular stock and its characteristics. I was the gaffer and not the DP, so the lack of testing didn't scare me but left me curious just the same. I'm assuming that since the stock was designed for TV it's probably a little flat and neutral to leave room for telecine tweaking. I wonder how the color, gamma, and grain compare to the other 500T stocks like 5218 and 5284. We lit and shot out project under the assumption that the stock wasn't TOO radically different from other modern Kodak 500T stocks, and I got a report form the DP that the telecine went fine and the producers were thrilled with the results. Still, inquiring minds want to know. Mr Pytlak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Pytlak RIP Posted February 26, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted February 26, 2004 Not all great ideas become commercial products. :D Use it as a 500T film, and it should transfer well on telecine. Not intended for printing. Glad the results were so good, but that was expected. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hayes Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 John: I have sort of a mistery stoke question. I was shooting Kodak 5298. Some of the footage was recans. Some of the cores where different colors. I thought Kodak always used the same color core. Wazup? Bob Hayes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Pytlak RIP Posted March 17, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted March 17, 2004 I suspect your "recans" had been rewound, using other cores. Although Kodak is currently testing a new core design and core material, primarily for use with print film, I don't think that is what you received. What identification information is molded into the plastic center web of the cores? What color are the cores? Kodak camera film cores have been white polystyrene for quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeSelinsky Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 All of the 35mm camera film I've been shooting always had the same color and size cores - white, 2". I've shot hundreds of rolls by this time, most of them short ends. Btw, I have an old 16mm Kodak core from what must have been right after WWII (from Europe), it's green. - G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted March 17, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted March 17, 2004 Hi, By the way, do Kodak still make the Kodalith giant sheets of film for animation work, or was that a special for Tron? Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Gross Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 Kodak cores use to be classic Kodak yellow (we all know that color). Now they're all white. But I've seen green cores as well, I think from Fuji. Have some brown cores and some black ones as well. Kodaliths have been used for graphics and printing work for decades. I suspect they are dying out as everything shifts to digital. But I shot some credits material using Kodaliths just a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Pytlak RIP Posted March 18, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted March 18, 2004 You can always obtain any stocked Kodak product through the appropriate business unit of Kodak, or ask your Kodak Entertainment Imaging (EI) representative to point you in the right direction. Search on the general Kodak website: http://www.kodak.com Here are the Kodak EI sales offices worldwide: http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/order/of...d=0.1.4.5&lc=en Other Kodak products have sometimes been finished to motion-picture formats as "Special Order", but there are quantity requirements, usually amounting to at least a "wide roll" sized order. And you are "on your own" using a product not designed for motion-picture use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeSelinsky Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 Request to Tim, could we have a separate forum topic on Cores? Just kidding - although it would probably be more peaceful of a place than the 16mm versus video threads :) Yeah, I also remember the yellow cores for 16mm, there also orange ones. I know there are third party places that also sell cores, I have black 3" 16mm cores. The green core I have is definitely EKC - labelled. By the way, are the Eyemo spools still metal, or have they switched to plastic? I just went to MPE not too long ago and they gave me plastic 100' 35mm camera spools (they even had a 1 and 2 on opposite sides like the 1/2" audio tape - made me wonder why - unless there's a "double 17.5 mm" format out there :blink: ) - G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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