Ross Neugeboren Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I've noticed on the Matthews scrims the border holding the scrim to the frame varies in color. I assume the fabric is coded to represent the type of fabric on the scrim. Which colors represent which fabrics? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Chris Keth Posted January 30, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted January 30, 2009 Green is a single and Red is a double. You can tell by looking at the material closely, too. A double is just 2 layers of bobbinette while a single is one layer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted January 30, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted January 30, 2009 Green is a single and Red is a double. You can tell by looking at the material closely, too. A double is just 2 layers of bobbinette while a single is one layer. And a Single cuts a half-stop and a Double cuts a full-stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Neugeboren Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 Thanks for the responses, and the stop information. I also have a yellow-bordered 18x24" Artificial Silk White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Patrick OHara Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Thanks for the responses, and the stop information. I also have a yellow-bordered 18x24" Artificial Silk White. That would be a silk flag. For diffusion purposes obviously. In film school we called them China silks. I would hope the yellow frame means it's different from a non-yellow silk. Otherwise, there is something inherently (slightly) racist by calling something 'yellow' chinese. On the topic of flags, perhaps it was chance, but I've been on many a set, and just this weekend the double nets (which were provided by the production) were white! I kept bitching to my gaffer/assistant that I hadn't seen the double nets all day and he should find them. Little did I realize they were white! I'm not talking about the rim either. The actual netting which restricts the light, was not black. So at a distance they looked like diffusion silk. I felt dumb but was fascinated that they made white double nets. I hope I never see them again! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Collier Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 white double nets? that is odd. silks with yellow rims are double silks, white rims are single silks. I have heard them called single stop and double stop silks, but I don't know for a fact if they cut one and two stops respectively, I choose them more on feel than numbers. Doubles are a little heavier fabric than the singles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Neugeboren Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 That would be a silk flag. For diffusion purposes obviously. In film school we called them China silks. I was under the impression that the term flag referred to a black-fabric light-blocking device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Patrick OHara Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 (edited) I was under the impression that the term flag referred to a black-fabric light-blocking device. Well how I describe the objects: All nets, solids and silks are types of flags. The nets are the single/ double light reducing flags. The solids block all light. The silk diffuse the light. "Flagging off" a light does mean using a solid, so perhaps that is the confusion. Maybe I am conducting set in the wrong manner. This is how I refer to my lighting control materials. If flag is another term for a solid, then what are all of the light control devices referred to as? Edited January 31, 2009 by Ryan Patrick OHara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Lovejoy Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 That would be a silk flag. For diffusion purposes obviously. In film school we called them China silks. I would hope the yellow frame means it's different from a non-yellow silk. Otherwise, there is something inherently (slightly) racist by calling something 'yellow' chinese. I believe that they came in the other order. While I've never heard it called a China silk, I think the name probably comes from China balls, which basically do the same thing, but in sphere form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Brinkhaus Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Actually Scott, the "China" in China Silk comes from the type of silk used. There are different types of silks, artificial, chinese, and maybe one or two more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Lovejoy Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Actually Scott, the "China" in China Silk comes from the type of silk used. There are different types of silks, artificial, chinese, and maybe one or two more. I stand corrected. I've learned my new fact for the day. How does Chinese compare to artificial in terms of diffusing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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