Nick NormanButler Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Hello forum members, I hope to soon start shooting a character based documentary about people performing landmine clearance. Are there any films to be recommended for inspiration on stylistic approaches? Or does anyone have any tips from previous experience doing similar? Apart from watching your step ;) Many thanks, Nick Norman-Butler Shooting Producer/Director UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Tyler Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Get a Steadicam in low-mode, or build a simple rig so your camera can be suspended a few inches from the ground using a length of pipe with a handle / T-bar on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Dzyak Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I'd suggest a long lens. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Rakoczy Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 With a doubler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Chris Keth Posted February 16, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted February 16, 2009 I've actually done this very thing before. I was in Northern Cambodia (Pailin town, Pailin province) last summer with MAG, so I can at least talk about their operating procedures. Basically their method is to work in 1x1 meter grid squares. They find a metal object with metal detectors and excavate the site from the side to avoid the pressure triggered detonator. If it is a mine, they will blow a whistle and all work stops. The supervisor confirms the find and determines what type of mine is is and how best to destroy it. Then a charge will be set and the mine will be destroyed. Once it is confirmed destroyed, everyone gets back to work. With a 15-or-so person demining crew, we would see 4 or 5 detonations per day. Number one is listen to the safety briefs carefully. There are very specific safety procedures that have to be followed to the letter if one is to be reasonably safe. Part of that is wearing your safety gear properly. We had flak-jackets and pretty heavy helmets with full face visors. Ask in advance for a new(er) visor because you will have to wear it while you operate. It's a pain but it's better than losing your face. Bring some anti-fog wipes to help keep the visor clear. We were there when it was very hot. Between the safety gear, carrying equipment, and the required long pants and long sleeves, it made for some pretty sweaty conditions. Bring gold bond. Bring some small crash cameras to rig near demolitions and some good long lenses. MAG deminers will not work if anyone is within 30 meters of them. It's a safety device for them and you. It also is to maintain their concentration while they work. For demolitions, we were not allowed closer than about 100 meters. Also bring some sheets of heavy plexi for rigging near explosions. If you bring enough, you can make sure that you're always using a new sheet and the shot looks like there is no plexi there. That's all I can think of off the top of my head. Just follow every safety rule to a T and you'll feel very safe after the initial "so I'm standing in a live minefield" moment. Maybe if you're lucky they'll find and destroy a tank-killer. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Steven Beverly Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Bring ear plugs :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Sprung Posted February 16, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted February 16, 2009 In WWII, they had that chain flail mechanism that extended from the front of a tank and whipped at the ground. It would detonate most anything, and far enough from the tank to be safe. All you'd have to do is back off and replace broken chains. That sure seems quicker and safer than what they're doing. -- J.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Francis Kuhn Posted February 16, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted February 16, 2009 In WWII, they had that chain flail mechanism that extended from the front of a tank and whipped at the ground. It would detonate most anything, and far enough from the tank to be safe. All you'd have to do is back off and replace broken chains. That sure seems quicker and safer than what they're doing. -- J.S. My dad was a US Army Combat Engineer in WWII. He went from Utah Beach, through France and Belgium into Germany. I found these photos of his Battalion in a shoebox few years ago. They used the tanks on the beach and inland, but a lot of the work was done by guys with mine detectors and bayonets. They would lose a few guys a month to the mines. Whatever you do, be careful! -Fran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Chris Keth Posted February 17, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted February 17, 2009 In WWII, they had that chain flail mechanism that extended from the front of a tank and whipped at the ground. It would detonate most anything, and far enough from the tank to be safe. All you'd have to do is back off and replace broken chains. That sure seems quicker and safer than what they're doing. -- J.S. I asked that same question and the answer I got was that those machines miss a significant (20-30%) portion of the mines used in northern Cambodia. Something about exactly how the triggering mechanism works. Then the soil is plowed and, when the soil is loosened, the mines are very unstable and get set off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hayes Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Where are you planning on filming this project? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick NormanButler Posted February 19, 2009 Author Share Posted February 19, 2009 Thanks guys. Some really good tips there and I appreciate the photos too. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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