Bill Munns Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Anybody know for certain if Kodachrome II is short pitch (0.2994") or long pitch stock (0.3000"), The ASC Manual doesn't list it, but describes reversal type stocks, intended for direct projection, as being long pitch, and K II was such. Thanks. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Munns Posted July 26, 2009 Author Share Posted July 26, 2009 Anybody know for certain if Kodachrome II is short pitch (0.2994") or long pitch stock (0.3000"), The ASC Manual doesn't list it, but describes reversal type stocks, intended for direct projection, as being long pitch, and K II was such. Thanks. Bill Added: I found the more recent K-II stocks, like 7270 (K-40) and 7267 (K-25) are listed as short pitch (on a spec sheet from 2002), but I'm wondering about K-II 25 stock from the 60's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Charles MacDonald Posted July 27, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted July 27, 2009 Anybody know for certain if Kodachrome II is short pitch (0.2994") or long pitch stock (0.3000"), After all these years, It is probably shrunk to short pitch or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Neary Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Hi- It seems a pretty safe bet that it was long pitch. I think the old ASC chart you are referencing (I've got the 3rd edition here) lists short pitch as "Camera original intended for release printing" which K_II was not. Then long pitch as "Camera original reversal intended for direct projection" which K-II was. It's funny that Kodak would change 16mm Kodachrome to short pitch before they discontinued it, maybe it simplified production, or they figured no-one was direct projecting 16mm anymore? I've got a circa- early 80's Kodachrome 16mm box here but it doesn't list the pitch anywhere on the packaging the way modern stocks do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Anthony Vale Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 It's funny that Kodak would change 16mm Kodachrome to short pitch before they discontinued it, maybe it simplified production, or they figured no-one was direct projecting 16mm anymore? They also added edge numbers. But don't know if they eventually went to Key Code. I once had to set up some NatGeo KII with single sytem optical sound for Xfer. The footage had INK EDGE NUMBERS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Neary Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Here you go, you can buy a roll and find out: http://cgi.ebay.com/16mm-FILM-KODACHROME-B...id=p3286.c0.m14 Although as Charles pointed out, chances are it has shrunken by now to short pitch! If you search around on this forum you'll see at least one reference from one of the lab guys who was pretty adamant that KII was long pitch. Other than a Kodak old-timer, they (the lab folks) are probably the only ones who would remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Anthony Vale Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Although as Charles pointed out, chances are it has shrunken by now to short pitch! If you search around on this forum you'll see at least one reference from one of the lab guys who was pretty adamant that KII was long pitch. Other than a Kodak old-timer, they (the lab folks) are probably the only ones who would remember. Old Kodak literature mentioned that KII had a different type of acetate base than the professional stocks which shrunk more. It also mentions that KII is/was long pitch. This PDF for K40 typeA states that K40 has short pitch. Which explains the edge numbers. Note the two sizes it was availiable in. The 1200 footer would be for the Auricon Super 1200. Kodachrome would have been the most suitable stock for optical tracks. Ektachrome would have been too grainy. http://www.super8.nl/k40.pdf A kodak eulogy for Kodachrome: http://homepage.1000words.kodak.com/default.asp?item=2388083 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Munns Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 Old Kodak literature mentioned that KII had a different type of acetate base than the professional stocks which shrunk more. It also mentions that KII is/was long pitch. Leo: Thank you for the contribution. Any chance you could help me source the old literature so I can save it? Thanks, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Ferrario Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I recently got a roll of Kodachrome II movie film with an old revere windup camera I bought off ebay. I was wondering if there are still places that develop Kodachrome II, I looked on Dwaynes website but there was nothing specific to KII. The roll I have is KA 449 Type A 16mm. On the back it says Movie Light ASA 40 17 DIN. On the side it also reads Emulsion: B. If this is still able to be processed I will shoot something with this film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Charles MacDonald Posted August 22, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted August 22, 2009 I recently got a roll of Kodachrome II movie film with an old revere windup camera I bought off ebay. I was wondering if there are still places that develop Kodachrome II, That was the old K-12 process, the (still but just for a year) current process is K-14. I think that their is one lab that does a run once a year to process K-12 as a B&W negative, at a high price. If it is not shot, you are probably better off to keep it as a souvenir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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