Brad DeCecco Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 So I'm trying to figure out how to best log and capture 60 hours of tape shot on the dvx100a in 24p without buying a deck or wearing out the dvx heads. It has been suggested to use a cheap mini dv cam. The catch is this: It needs to support timecoding (which the super-cheap ones seem not to) and i have been told the Sony DCR-HC21 is best and cheapest. Any thoughts, suggestions or cheaper ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted September 8, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted September 8, 2005 Hi, Any miniDV device that's capable of outputting firewire will almost unavoidably output the timecode too - it'd actually be more work to dig it out of the DV frames than it would be just to send it. The device might not have a timecode display, though you could plug it into a computer running your NLE software of choice. Having said that, there's nothing quite like owning a deck capable of playing back your footage. The convenience factor of not having to drag the camera out every time you want to run some VT is easy to underestimate. Personally I'd get something like a DSR-11. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad DeCecco Posted September 8, 2005 Author Share Posted September 8, 2005 I'm not sure what you mean about the footage, but if it's possible, I'd definitely want to save the $1200 difference between a deck and a mini-dv cam. Is it possible for fcp5 to capture at true 24p (the dvx100a footage) through a non-24p device (like a sony handi-cam dcr-hc21)? Or is it only possible to capture interlaced? What are the options here? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted September 8, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted September 8, 2005 Hi, I believe the pulldown flag is embedded in the DV frames in the same way as the timecode. If I'm right, it'll all work out fine. I'm not sure if I am right, though. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tim J Durham Posted September 8, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted September 8, 2005 I'm not sure what you mean about the footage, but if it's possible, I'd definitely want to save the $1200 difference between a deck and a mini-dv cam. Is it possible for fcp5 to capture at true 24p (the dvx100a footage) through a non-24p device (like a sony handi-cam dcr-hc21)? Or is it only possible to capture interlaced? What are the options here? Thanks! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The footage coming out of your camera is still 60i even though you shot in 24p. The NLE will recognize the marked frames. This is dealt with in the FAQ, give it a read. It is worth it to use your DVX to capture. I don't know the engineering involved, but it supposedly works better to capture with the camera you shot the footage with according to Paul Wheeler who wrote "Digital Cinematigraphy". He made that discovery half-way through a documentary he was making at the time. I have not tested this theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaan Shenberger Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 it doesn't matter what device the 24p footage is laying from, if you tell FCP that it's 24pa footage, then FCP will know how to handle it. i'd suggest you just rent a deck over a weekend. it should be $100-$150. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillP Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 I use my"cheapo" DCR-TRV33 mini-DV SONY camera as my deck. I use it for DVX 24p footage all the time. In fact, I'm currently cutting a short for a friend that was shot on the DVX. I just finished logging 6 hours of footage. Only problems were some tape dropouts, but those were there when I tried using a DSR-11 at work as well. I agree with it being a pain to hook up the camera every time you want to edit. But it works. -BillP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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