Chris Burke

Look around they are on the Web. I see them on ebay often. In Germany, mostly.

z

Most transfer houses will cut you a deal different from their book rate. Talk to them and explain your situation. Since you are so new to the film world, I would highly recommend that you team up with someone who is knowledgeable. This will save you lots of aggravation and money. If you are looking for a telecine in the Boston area; take a look at National in Brookline, they often cut the local guy a good deal. Also try Filmshack, for the super lo budget.

Also, forgot to ask.

What was your budget? for how much film? Running time, etc??? I would like to know how much shooting a short this way might cost. Do you think that , because it is Super 8 that is being scanned, it might cost less? Perhaps because of a smaller file size or something??

Love to learn more

Have you considered the stabilizer that is on the market now? I hear that it makes quiet a difference.

you can find it hear: http://www.andecfilm.de/html/bildstand_e.htm

It looks very good. Is it any better than a HD telecine though? I guess the 35mm print and subsequent screening will tell. How large are the files when scanned? How are you planning to edit the footage?

if you are using super 8 for the entire film, I would highly recommend shooting with a negative stock rather than Tri-X exclusively. Why? Because of sharpness and exposure latitude. Also, stick to as many close ups as possible. Like DV, Super 8 isn't that good for wide shots, great in CUs. As far as HD or a DI scan, I suppose what ever you are willing to spend. The DI will be expensive.

I would recommend a test. You could see what each method has to offer. Try Bonolabs.com, they have some great package deals where you could test both a black and white stock and a color negative stock. They also do a transfer straight to hard drive that is supposed to be great. I am going this route for a short and will post my results here first. Good luck!

Well, by brand new, I meant, the closest you will get to being brand new is probably one that you would purchase from Pro8mm.com. Does Beaulieu have any cameras currently in production?

I own a Nizo 6080 and recommend it highly. Other than say the Beaulieu sync cameras, the 6080 is the very best you can buy. Some people will go on and on about Canon cameras, which are very good, but the Nizo 6080 is the very, very best. It can be converted to synce sound, it is a very quiet camera to begin with, probably THE quietest. Also, you can buy many pro style accessories; Barney, larger mags( 200' and 400'), matte box, rails and on and on. A good one can be purchased for around 500 or 600. I have shot many rolls of film and am very pleased with the results. Living in Europe as you do, you can get them serviced in Germany, I believe, which is a lot easier than we have it here in the states. If money is not an issue and you can spend 2k or 3k, then buy brand new from Pro8mm.com, she will love you forever. Best of luck.

I heard it on some European website. I am trying to find out which one, but can't seem to remember. Either in NE or UK. It probably willl come out in Europe first as did the 7274, 7217 and 7218. In any case, I welcome the 100D, I will put it to great use.

I read on Friday that the new 100D color reversal Super 8 is due out this spring. Can anyone confirm this? Wonder how it will telecine?

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Who did the S16 mod? I would like to do the same. Who did the overhaul? Same people as the S16?

yeah, but what about this Vision2 250D? Will we see that in Super 8? That would be a handy stock.

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I know that some people consider this overkill, but I am really interested in what sort of results can come out of a 2k scan of really well shot super 8 footage. My questions are:

Has anyone done this? If so, how did it go? Do you like what you got? Can I see a dvd reel?

Who does 2k work with super 8 on the east coast?

I tried a search of the boards but keep getting an error.

thanks

Rick,

Best of luck. I also bought a DVD from you and loved what you did with the film. Do you guys modify cameras that people send to you?

chris

:rolleyes:

Again, what about a third party doing it? Pro8mm for instants. They seem to be the likely canidate. Perhaps someone else.

chris

Use an external meter and ND filters if you need to. Tri-X is a beautiful stock that pushes well up to 800 asa. It is grainy at that speed but gorgeous. Good luck.

z

Is any one in the US selling custom 200' loads? Pro8mm maybe??

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The method you describe is done quite often now. It is more often refered to as DI or digital intermediate. You shoot your film and have the negs scanned rather than the traditional telecine. The catch here is that it is a much more expensive endevor than telecine. If this is your first outing and are considering a 35mm blow up, then compose your shots for 1.85:1 and do a traditional telecine and have the negative conformed to your final video cut. I have researched this route myself and have found out that you need to have a rather large budget to get a DI. An optical blow up is still cheaper than going the DI route, although that will all change in time. As far as doing it yourself at home........... it would be much to costly and involved to be a viable solution. Right now the DI is for the $$ crowd. Traditional telecine is just fine for what you need.

Hope this helps...

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As far as I know the Peleng 8mm is the only wide angle available for the k-3. this will cover the entire S16 frame. Just curious, who did your conversion to Super 16? I own a K-3 and am considering doing the same.

chris

:rolleyes:

Well, I am if it's cheap. Are you ordering it as a large bulk from Kodak?

 

And I agree with Wells that it's a different look. Though I've always shot K40 if I wanted the familiar super8 look. I don't think the negs are too much different to s16mm, except for the apparent grain and sharpness issues?

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I know that someone is making either a 200' or 400' mag for super 8. If that works out and there are enough of us, maybe kodak could sell us some larger lengths to fit said mag. Imagine having 20 minutes worth of film without having to change!! :D

the 6080 I bought from Matt has an enlarged gate. Possibly Super Duper. Matt, do you know the actual aspet ratio of this gate? I think it is around a 1.7:1

Has anyone ever installed an internal video tap on a super 8 camera? Or herd of anyone attempting to do so? could this be done?

I shoot with a Nizo 6080 which I bought off of Matt Pacini. It has incredible optics. Close ups and wide shots look far and above the typical home movie look.

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Same Answer:

 

http://www.friendlyfirefilms.ca

 

Also, anyone with a Workprinter can capture Super-Duper 8 footage as well. 

 

Last time I checked, the cost of widening was hovering around $50.

In terms of telecine of Super Duper 8, any pro place can do it. Rank or Bosch or Spirit or Shadow can all "pull out" with there gates to capture the entire image area. Cost would be the same as if you did a normal telecine. Or at least it should be. Here in Boston, I am about to go into a Rank suite to transfer my very own Super Duper 8 stuff. I will report back with the results, maybe a clip or two.

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I think that a super 8 forum would be a great asset. I see more and more telecine facilities here in the states with Super 8 gates. Kodak has just released two new stocks and two new B&W stocks a little while ago. Things seem pretty good for this format. Has anyone seen Twin Falls Idaho? Didn't they use Super 8 in a dream sequence?

chris