John Salim

This isnt too related, But I Was curious if labs develop expired ektachrome still? I went to send in some old stock and pro 8mm says you have to pay some outrageous price for old stock. Im confused though since its just e6 developing?

Ah no ... old Ektachrome could be one of many processes used over the years.

see here.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ektachrome#Variants

John S B)

Pretty much every B&W negative film ( except print films ) have some sort of cast.

John S

Yes, 7285 was actually Ektachrome 100VS ( 'vivid saturation' ) emulsion, and did in some instances look like Kodachome !

John S

The traditional film used by National Geographic still photographers for years was, I think, Ektachrome. It's a highly respected film stock. I never used it much in my filmmaking, since I used Kodachrome or more recently Vision 3. I'm keen to film with it. Thanks Kodak for bringing it back. What are the strengths and weaknesses of Provia?

Fujichrome Provia ( marketed as Provie 100D ) is an excellent quality film - probably the best colour reversal cine film out there at the moment.

I process many of these carts, as well as 35mm and 120 Provia stills films, and some images are just breathtaking !

The only thing ( many ) folk complain about is, the carts are only loaded with 40ft of film not 50ft.

This I believe is because 'Retro Enterprises' ( in Tokyo, Japan ) load both Super 8 and Single 8 carts ( .... Single 8 only having a 40ft capacity with acetate base film ).

John S :rolleyes:

A camera operator friend once told me there were rumours that magazines were prone to scratching film.

Anyone know if this was true ?

John S :mellow:

Are these drawings available as a pdf download at all ?

John S :rolleyes:

Here's a very interesting video showing Rank Film Laboratories ( Denham ) custom printing system for striking feature length films ( single roll )

from 1982.

John S :rolleyes:

Ektachrome 100D Reversal is actually returning now it seems!

 

.....And, as a 35mm stills film (135 format). I am hoping it could also be cut as a 120 roll film, for medium format cameras (Hasselblad, Mamiya, Bronica, Fuji, Rolleiflex, etc), which I use a lot (now with Fuji PROVIA 100F III, 100 ISO).

 

 

Kodak have said they're only coating on one base thickness ( for super 8, 16mm and 35mm ) so won't be producing 120 ( thinner ) or 5"x4" ( thicker ) based films.

John S :mellow:

ON8MIL in London sell a range of KAHL Standard 8mm film.....

https://www.on8mil.com/product-category/8mm-film-packages/standard-8/

John S :)

Actually quite simple, more tanks... this Allen was a 1979 Ektachrome machine and it has enough tanks to have the ECP Developer and stop and then E6 first and second developer, E6 doen's have a stop and the wash, fix Bleach are all able to shared between ECP and E6. So one machine both processes and we will not have to dump tanks to run either.

 

What a great design Robert ....simply re-thread and you're away !

Thanks for sharing that.

John S

We are in the middle of woring on one of our Allen processors which is shortly going to be setup so it can run E6 and ECP (Color Print) in 8mm 16mm and 35mm

 

About another two or three weeks away.

How will you run both E-6 and ECP on the same machine Robert ?

John S :mellow:

You can get some good Super 8 deals from ON8MIL in London.

link here... https://www.on8mil.com/product-category/8mm-film-packages/super-8/

John S -_-

I don't suppose there were any 35mm IB Technicolor prints made at any time ?

I know Metrocolor was the production lab, but those would make the best reference prints.

John S :unsure:

Crikey, that's a bit of a jump for Logmar to go from Super 8mm to 65mm !

John S :o

I was using An Arri BL , Yes on rooftop shooting Get Back , back of my head is seen a few times I was lying down on the floor in the front .

Shooting handheld with that Arri BL & 1200 ft mag must have been a bit of a handful John !

How's your back ???

John S :rolleyes:

Hi,

Thanks, yes I've seen that wiki page, but wondered if I could track down a specific camera's number.

John S

Hi all,

Before I contact Arri, is there a website or database anywhere where I can find the year of manufacture for Arri SR series of cameras ?

Many thanks,

John S :rolleyes:

Fumeo made super 16 gates for their machines.

I assume for checking dailies or running sep-mag at festivals.

John S :)

Gareth, I know test films are difficult items to find nowadays, but Boston Light & Sound used to sell SMPTE test films.

Probably worth asking ( ....though not for the Channel Four film of course ).

Link here..... http://www.blsi.com/about_tech_capabilities.php

John S B)

Hey John,

 

I am not sure about the config, the previous owner die C-41, E6 and bw-neg with it. He also offered me with help and answered my initial bunch of questions :)

One Q: Is there any way to do the re-exposure for bw-reversal inside the Bray, not chemically but with light? My Bray has a kind of "gate" after the third tank, that suggests to allow a lightsource behind it, but I would not know where and how.

 

I had been in contact with a Ruth Marsden at Bray Plastics, and just got a "I have asked the question and we have no manuals or paperwork in relation to the E-Series processors, we discontinued production approximately 10-14years ago and all relevant paperwork manuals etc. sorry we could not be of help."

 

Weird.

 

I still need to get tempered supply water and a drainer box installed at the place where I want the Bray to operate, so haven't even turned it on yet.

 

Oh, one more Q: The previous owner used the 70mm leader and pulled up to four S8 films through it in parallel. Have you tried this too? Or even more films?

Friedemann, can you post a picture clearly showing all of the top of the tanks ?

Continuous machines like this will only be configured to one process really, but sometime can be adapted ( a bit wasteful or not very good for quality ).

And I doubt you can install a re-exposure lamp anywhere on the processor !

Running multiple strands can be done as long as the rollers are flat and use rubber spacers on all rollers. Even then I wouldn't trust it as the tension would be different on all strands - and take up could be a problem.

Most of these machine types use convex rubber coated rollers ensuring the film runs down the middle of the rollers / tanks.

For tempered water, you can adapt a small, cheap shower heater with a power 'dimmer' (... and fit a thermometer in-line to monitor the temperature ).

John S :unsure:

Hi Friedemann,

Which process is your machine configured for ?

I use an older Bray processor ( the daddy of the E series ) which isn't too different.

I don't have any paperwork, but happy to advise you.

Geoffrey Bray ( ex Bray Processors ) doesn't seem to want to help with their old processing machines now as he's now into plastics manufacturing ( ....he's also very difficult to get hold of ).

Cheers,

John S :rolleyes:

I thought Ektachrome was only coming back in 35mm ( stills ) and Super 8mm.

John S :mellow:

That looks like a 3.5mm jack socket ( PCB mount ), but if it's just kicking about in there ....... GAWD KNOWS !

John S :unsure:

Nice one Diamond Dom !

I discovered the worm was a little sticky so ( very lightly ) touched it with some oil and that freed it up nicely.

Thanks very much for your expert advice - it's very much appreciated :rolleyes:

Best wishes,

John S