Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

OK, thanks for the clarification, Perry.

What is dead about it? Wouldn't they service it? What type of price were they asking Dan?

Is this something you built Robert? Love the focus rack! You need photos of it.

That's impressive Perry! Good luck with it. I have no interest in building anything, nor do I have the skills and knowledge for it. I'm an end user. As I've said, I don't even need the films. (Although handling lots of film has its own educational benefit.) If it was possible, I'd be perfectly happy with acquiring high quality scans of films. (If they were reasonably priced.)

Well, this is not the Large Format Forum, so we don't have to be that anal Phil. Artists and the like need a little room to work. They don't like to be pigeonholed. I never complain about these things and let people ruminate a bit. You never know where things will lead and boom...you have a breakthrough! That would be great if they redesigned the Cintel and there was another option for sound 16mm scanners other than the usual names. B&H sells Cintel scanners. But getting any info out of B&H is tough. Here is an old article B&H did on film scanning. It was how I learned about Cintel. Photo B&H A Guide to Scanning Motion Picture Film | B&H eXplora (bhphotovideo.com) What is nice about the Cintel is you can buy the scanner and the components at B&H and it is somewhat affordable. Plus B&H answers their emails. The downside of the Cintel is the output is no good for 16mm. (per this forum) And I think it won't work with Windows, you need Apple. I see Perry has bought or rented a church to relocate his operations to. I've been trying to clean up things to make room for a proper table to do cine' scans on. (I've been using a folding table I got at Lowes.) The point of all this is...we are all on different levels with our film scanning. And there hasn't been any decent options for affordable 16 mm sound scanners. But, hope springs eternal, as they say.

So, you are saying if you bought an Archivist and now want a Scan Station you just buy the extra parts? How does their trade-up program fit into that Perry? Are they giving you a break on the parts prices? I still never got a reply from them on this.

I'm not a big practitioner of applied digital grain. But every once in a while, I use it. Maybe things have changed with the fake grain, but this is the formula I had settled on a few years ago. I'm not up to date with the new AI software options, so maybe other options now. If you know you will be trying digital grain then you plan that in your shoot. A lot of the old, grainy film photography was not that sharp. This is the issue with digital. Too sharp and too much midtones or dynamic range. Shoot wide open for low depth of field. Normal or short tele lens. Don't use a wide angle. Make it contrasty with less midtones. Have some areas burned out. Try out different digital grain formulas. They make a big difference. Do your testing to settle on what you like. Fake grain is not organic like real film grain, so it applies an even amount of grain all over. This is the issue with fake grain...nonorganic. If you burn areas out, then there is no / lower fake grain there. But that may not be possible with cine' software. With still software you can do it with contrast grading tools. Sometimes you can achieve the film look with a wide angle, but it is harder. Here is an example of how not to shoot. Wide angle, lots of depth of field and the dreaded plasticky, digital look. Jersey City Campsite Here is another example of applied digital grain for the film look... All photos: D.D. Teoli Jr. Click on photos to magnify views

Dunno OP...I got no crystal ball. But they predict that studio photogs will be replaced by virtual production. Maybe they will go that route with movie actors, but only if there is a big savings in cost. Isn't $$ the root of it all? Unless they need virtual actors to do what real actors cannot do. I don't know if film use has stabilized or not. It just keeps getting more and more unaffordable for the small guy. Big production has no problem affording film, but everyone else does, unless rich. I'm hoping cine' scanner prices come down as the market gets saturated or new models come out. And if not, maybe more scanners come on the used market. I plan to buy some AI software in a month or so. I've been looking at it for a few years. It supposedly upscales things via AI. I get lots of low-quality material that could use a little upscaling that actually made it look better. So will give it a try. As far as studies? Don't be prejudicial. Look at as much as you can. We can always learn things. Even if it is by some roundabout way that jars our senses into a new reality. Good luck!

Owen...shoot some film and push / pull it to get the lowdown. You may find that you get different results from different labs as well. If you don't want to use cine' reels, break down some of the cine' film like Freestyle used to do, and shoot as stills and develop yourself. These examples you are looking for is something Robert H. should be doing Owen. You know, in the old days, we didn't push film or shoot expired film for effect. We did it because we had to. Dynamic range was bad and couldn't afford film back then, even though it was cheap as hell compared to film now. These were all pushed a couple stops. The center photo is 6x6, the rest are 35mm. Selections from Peephole: Peering into the World of 1970's Hollywood and L.A. 2012 by D.D.Teoli Jr. Below is an example of digital pushing to the extreme. Same photo, no pushing / post work... Why not shoot it right? Photography is banned, can't take any readings, can't adjust your camera, everything is guestimate, had 5 days to make a book...bla, bla and bla. Yes, you want digital examples of pushing, look up my Red Light Amsterdam DeWallen project Owen. EVERYTHING shot at night is digital and pushed in post! But you don't need to push film to get the effect. Do it in post Owen. You can get all the effects you want from post. And it is more reliable than pushing. Hakenkreuz in a Dress Los Angeles, 1973 D.D.Teoli Jr. (No push...just post.) <><><><> Selection from Erwin and his Guns - Stereo Archive. DDTJRAC

Expresso Bongo 1959 Clip : D.D.Teoli Jr. A.C. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive Pretty racy by American standards of the 1950's.

Press photo Cleveland, OH 1938 Believed to be the world's largest process camera at the time. DDTJRAC Verso photo above DDTJRAC The importance of the process camera was this... In the old days we didn't have scanners. Everything was duplicated on film via cameras. Camera & Process Work Chambers 1964 DDTJRAC

Have him write me at w1000w@aol.com. I'd like to correspond with him. He should have all that history archived. I have a large Graphic Arts Archive and would love to add anything he can offer to it to help preserve some of the historical record. Dan

Just ran across this workshop at an upcoming AMIA (Association of Moving Image Archivists) conference in Pittsburgh... LTO for the Masses. That is what you need to run LTO...a workshop! Or maybe it just tells you some basic details and you need 2 more workshops on how to set up and run. De-Mystifying LTO, or, LTO for the Masses Linda Tadic, Digital Bedrock Larry Blake, Swelltone Reto Kromer, AV Preservation by reto.ch LTO data tape is an economical and physically robust storage media option for archives with digital content. Its open file system, LTFS, is not reliant upon propriety software. As a result, it enables accessing individual files as if the they were on a hard drive. LTO can be used with single desktop drives, in small changers, or in large-scale robotic systems. This session will de-mystify using LTO data tape for archival data storage. The panelists will review the storage technology, and provide considerations in using LTO: drives, software, hardware, workflow when migrating to newer LTO generations, and open-source tools. The core part of the session will outline the components in building a streamlined and portable LTO system that can be used by anyone.

Normally I just use store bought HP computers. But over the years I had 2 custom computers built. Once recent Windows10 model only lasted a few days before one of Windows updates messed it up. After one of their updates, it won't recognize external optical drives any longer. I tried a lot of the online fixes, but the problem has not been fixed. I was wondering if Windows glitches affects custom computers more so than store bought computers. The older custom also had a similar problem, but it was eventually fixed with another update. Since both custom computers had issues, that made me wonder about custom computers and Microsoft. I keep 2 computers offline just for this very reason. They are out of the hands of Microsoft and their forced updates. It is too bad this recent custom could not have been kept offline. Optical drives are a big part of my work. I'd 50% dead without them. How have you fared with custom computers? Any problems like this with Microsoft? <><><><> Selection from Sotheby's Photography Catalog Collection DDTJRAC

Interesting videos. I could only watch 1.3 of them...at 144p. Then the internet jammed up. The internet in the Rustbelt is terrible. Why are there 4 platters? Unusual business to be in. Is it steady work or declining?

At their website, Lasergraphics talks about their trade-up program. I wonder what they do with their older scanners like the discontinued Scan Station Personal model. I wrote them a few weeks ago to ask about buying used scanners. But guess what...No Reply. Anyone ever buy a used scanner from Lasergraphics? How did it work out for you? <><><><> CompuServe Ad Selection from Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Advertising Archive

About Bridgeman Images Check em out if you need something for a project. Much cheaper than Getty Images, but not as extensive a collection. You can also put things up for use.

No, you can't work out 'how long' with any of my tests. The fade and archival tests are not proper, anal tests like a laboratory would do. The sun in the N.E. USA is puny and spotty. To do any concrete results you would need some type of meter that gives you total light received. For instance, if you did the tests in the Mojave Desert you would get different results than I do. But I don't really care about all that. For instance. AZO DVD's die after about 3 weeks of sun. Whether it is 3 weeks +1 day or 2 weeks + 5 days; is variable upon the strength of the sun at the time of the tests. I'm just looking at the test results in generalities. If I put a M-Disc in the sun for a year and it is fine, that tells me what I need to know. If I put an inkjet print in the sun for a year and no fading results from the year of sun, that tells me something. Now, maybe this year's sun strength was less or more than last year's sun; but it still says something about an item's archival qualities versus something that dies after 3 weeks of sun. Interesting about your film work. How did you do it in the old days, just work with a dupe neg? Even if scanned, they should take care of their OCN. It is all security. Make some videos of you at work with the Steenbecks / etc.

The photographers at the Large Format Forum are always traveling with big sheet film. You should query them. Still, with the ways things are going, it may be a crapshoot as regs and rules change quickly. Good luck!

All Photos: Internet - Fair Use ...no upgrade for the Retroscan Universal 2K model, 4K just fits the newer models. Other upgrades are also offered. moviestuff_home_page If they ever put an optical sound reader on the 4K Retroscan, maybe they will have something! As the newer 4K models become widespread, there may be an opportunity for the low budget archivist to pick up the less desirable, lower res 2K Universal Retroscan scanner on the cheap.

That's fine, no argument. They got $$$ and $ cameras. But you still have a choice. With LTO your choice is $$$ or $$$.

Perry blocked you?? Does not sound like Perry. He usually has an argument for everything, if he does not agree. Either something is right or wrong or we don't know. There should not be any shame in searching for the truth. I settled on SanDisk G-Drive Pro. 22TB. But once it is reformatted to Windows it drops down to 20 TB. I've never met anyone that has a LTO drive other than hearing about them here. I've never found a custom computer maker that would add the LTO interface to run a LTO drive. OK, the custom makers specialize mainly in gaming computers... but if they can't do it, who can? Look, I'm all in favor of the LTO tape as another method of backup. But they are just too underground unless you are an IT guy or gal or zir. IF...they were USB plug and play and IF they were half-ass affordable (LTO-8 = $1000) I go for it. But they are just too much for the average Jor or Jane to get into. My goal is to put everything on M-Disc or BD-R M-Disc and high-grade BD-R as a backup to the M-Disc. But it is nice to have hard drive easy access to things instead of digging through the optical disc library. And it is good to have other digital backups as well. Just be careful what BD-R's you use. Some are terrible for archival work. Blu-ray Discs …they are not all the same. – Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival Collection – II (home.blog) Now the G-Drives are not cheap. But I can afford to buy one every few months if I save up for one. So far have 40TB of storage. One for general work and one for films. As time goes one, I will pick up backup drives to the main drives. But still need to test out how they hold up. HDD are good for 8 to 10 years they say. Then you have to rewrite to another part of the disc to reenergize the magnetism that holds the data. I've transcribed reel to reel tape going back to the 50's that still held the data. Although you can't say what was lost compared to digital. Some old audio tapes suffer from oxide shedding. Here is what came off of 2 R/R tapes... The tape companies should have made LTO more mainstream. They do have one USB LTO drive out there, but it is $5K. Just crazy. Now I've got problems with external optical disc drives. Windows update killed one of my computers. After the update it won't recognize optical disc drives. Tried most ever fix I could find. Stinking Microsoft. So that shuts down that computer for half my work. Everything gets put on optical disc eventually. Oh...one tidbit of advice. Don't encrypt of password protect your data unless you want it to die with you. Who has a drive for this? All photos: D.D.Teoli Jr.

Just an update... I finished up most of my archival tests for the season today. One of the things I tested was this artist tape. While the tape works great indoors, it does not work good in the sun long term. 2-1/2 months of sun made the tape brittle, and it could not be removed without scrapping it off.

Never thought anything about that. We take it for granted with travel nowadays. Sadly, I still have not found the color queen photo. But I did find a bunch of old BW press photos of the queen and various royals. I hope to scan them if and when I get some time...before the clutter eats them again! I am having lots of problems with a custom computer I had made. The computer works great, but after Windows updated it the external DVD drives are not recognized now. I tried all the recommended online fixes more or less. Still no go. Now I have to remove all the software from the new computer and dig out my old computer to reinstall them so I can burn discs. Optical discs are a huge part of my work. Even if I didn't burn any discs for the optical disc library; I'm always cutting up DVD's to extract some clips for archival discussions. God, I hate Microsoft.

Got photos of them? Got photos of the projection booth? Projector ephemera?