Go 4 the widest lens you can affard in super 8...the 6.5mm is noticably wider than the 7.5mm on the 814...also the sound cameras are more silent than the silent cameras. Stick with Canon. The Leicas are overpriced since you are paying for a red circle on a gray box. The beualieuas need constant rebuilding in europe to keep running. Late model Bauers are good and pretty cheap compared to all the others. With everything super 8, keep your focus within 10feet and you will get great results. 16mm is better and a caliber above anything 8mm.