Dan Salzmann Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Have heard several people mention that this is done for flare effects and was wondering how this is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Mulder Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Clean it vigourously with your favorite aviation fuel, remove all lenshood-esque parts, chip the front element, point at sun :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny N Suleimanagich Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 ultrafine-woven lint-free cloth with Brasso, be VERY careful to be even because Brasso can eat through the glass too. So: Use minimal Brasso, be even with it, when youre done dry it all off and clean with lens fluid and tissue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Mulder Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 In reality, I'd say just buy/find an older non-coated lens rather than hacking a new one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Anthony Vale Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 ultrafine-woven lint-free cloth with Brasso, be VERY careful to be even because Brasso can eat through the glass too. So: Use minimal Brasso, be even with it, when youre done dry it all off and clean with lens fluid and tissue. Don't forget to disassemble the lens to do the inner surfaces. Those internal reflections account for most of the flare. & recalibrate the T-stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Mulder Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Don't forget to disassemble the lens to do the inner surfaces. Those internal reflections account for most of the flare. If you are going to go that far you could paint the barrel internals white at the same time :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boy yniguez Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 If you are going to go that far you could paint the barrel internals white at the same time :lol: leo meant internal reflections among the elements! painting the inside of the barrel white would if anything lower the contrast not produce more flare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Mulder Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 maybe my definition of flare is different from yours - I really have never looked it up exactly - but yep, I understand what you are saying ... I have a lens here I was considering turning into the flare beast just out of interests sake... might even install some mirror/reflective surfaces inside it - I think a specular reflection would yield more direct flariness than the white, which yes would just produce a low con lens (the two often come hand in hand anyway) Its bored project # 16 - wont get done for months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Anthony Vale Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 leo meant internal reflections among the elements! painting the inside of the barrel white would if anything lower the contrast not produce more flare. As I understand it flare also lowers the contrast. Those internal reflections wind up putting random light into the shadows thus lowering the contrast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boy yniguez Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 As I understand it flare also lowers the contrast. Those internal reflections wind up putting random light into the shadows thus lowering the contrast. yes, leo but not always! i've encountered flares that created ghost images on small sections of the image, not an overall drop in contrast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Anthony Vale Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 yes, leo but not always! i've encountered flares that created ghost images on small sections of the image, not an overall drop in contrast! I didn't say that was the only the only thing. I suppose it's the least dramatic effect of flare. Usually from shooting something contrasty or back lit, but with no extremely bright highlights like a head light, a fire or the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Mulder Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 yes, leo but not always! i've encountered flares that created ghost images on small sections of the image, not an overall drop in contrast! Were you using filters not as practibily close to being %100 parallel to the film plane ? (like you'd expect the rest of the elements would be) - I got heaps of ghosting from using ND filters in front of my lenses they were the Cokin resin type and weren't perfectly straight and therefore mounted on a noticeable angle - the ghosts are always there but any high-con scene will dramatically increase the visibility of an actual ghosted image - after fiddling with the bracket whilst looking through the viewfinder I can usually reduce them sufficiently enough to be happy with the result... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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