David Gascon Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 Looking for opinion here. If you had to choose between, 200 Vision2, 500 Expression Vision2 and 500 Vision2 film stock to shoot a night scene, with for concern, a very low dept of field and be sure that the black are really black, what of those stock you'll choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidSloan Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 35MM,or 16MM? Is there a post budget? You can achieve any look you want with vision 2 500, as long as you have the budget to tinker in post. 200 speed is probably too slow for a night scene. How about Fuji 500T?...it's a beautiful stock with a bit less latitude then the vision 2, so you'll lose more detail in the blacks, if that's what you're after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted November 16, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted November 16, 2004 Well, if you want deeper blacks, don't use the lower-contrast stock like Expression 500T unless you plan on overexposing it and printing down. However, if this is for telecine only, you can make either stock match each other in terms of black level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gascon Posted November 16, 2004 Author Share Posted November 16, 2004 the production is in super 16, and yes, we will use telecine after, probably a Da Vinci Suite. Fuji 500 seem really interesting, but because we will probably use a 200Vision 2 for day scene, I'm a bit concern by mixing both Kodak and Fuji Stock. I really want to create same kind of look. But thank for advice. David G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Pytlak RIP Posted November 16, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted November 16, 2004 (edited) Looking for opinion here. If you had to choose between, 200 Vision2, 500 Expression Vision2 and 500 Vision2 film stock to shoot a night scene, with for concern, a very low dept of field and be sure that the black are really black, what of those stock you'll choose? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> To get rich blacks with good shadow detail, I'd suggest the Kodak VISION2 500T Color Negative Film 7218. The Super-16 introduction demo ("The Box") had quite a few night scenes that held up very well: http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/...mentsBest.shtml http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/...Lighthill.shtml http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/...004/kohlP.shtml http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/.../sexcityP.shtml Edited November 16, 2004 by John_P_Pytlak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F Bulgarelli Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 Hello I shot this music video with 7218 and desaturated the colors in post. We were going for a b&w look and got really good contrast. also, this stock has very little grain. FRancisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Greg Gross Posted December 27, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted December 27, 2004 Mr. Bulgarelli, I really like your shot from the music video here. You have given great shape,separation,dimension to your character. Thank you for your post on 7218. I appreciate your use of key and fill. The things that appeal to me are the wrinkle on the jacket shoulder, use of profile for the face and dramatic fall off of light towards the rear of the face and head. Its amazing that the 7218 upheld detail of the ear in the black. The blacks are so rich. Also like detail and shape of the keys on the horn. This is a very appealing subject,character. Greg Gross, Professional Photographer Student Cinematographer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F Bulgarelli Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Thanks Greg. we were going after a sort of noir look but more modern for the band (being a music video) combined with a more grainy look for the storyline, that was shot with 7222 pushed 1 stop. If you would like to watch the whole thing please go to: prettypictures.com/franciscobulgarelli and check out Budhi brown- Regards, Francisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Greg Gross Posted December 29, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted December 29, 2004 Francisco, Thank you very much for info on 7222 and I understand it was pushed 1 stop with most excellent results. I wonder if you would care to comm- ent on the lens that was used in the 16mm format? As a student of cine- matography this would start me off with a foundation for lenses. We all know that cinematographers have favorite lenses for various reasons. This is the first movie film that has sparked my interest for darkroom work. I am at a professional level in darkroom skills and I believe I could shoot and process this film. After a certain period of time in development this film can actually be looked at in the darkroom(during process of de- velopment) though only for a few sec. at a time. A #3 filter would be re- quired with a low watt safelight. I believe the creative possibilities would be un-ending. I am presently searching for a 16mm camera to purchase. In the past I have photographed some very famous jazz stars for the Cen- tral Pennsylvania Jazz Society. I would love to do some work with 7222. The film is developed in D-96 which is not difficult to use. It would be inter- esting to see how far I could push it in controlled conditions. Thank you very much for posting your web site and I will visit it. Best Regards, Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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