Night scene and Vision2

[David Gascon]

Looking for opinion here. If you had to choose between, 200 Vision2, 500 Expression Vision2 and 500 Vision2 film stock to shoot a night scene, with for concern, a very low dept of field and be sure that the black are really black, what of those stock you'll choose?

[DavidSloan]

35MM,or 16MM? Is there a post budget?

 

You can achieve any look you want with vision 2 500, as long as you have the budget to tinker in post. 200 speed is probably too slow for a night scene. How about Fuji 500T?...it's a beautiful stock with a bit less latitude then the vision 2, so you'll lose more detail in the blacks, if that's what you're after.

[David Mullen ASC]

Well, if you want deeper blacks, don't use the lower-contrast stock like Expression 500T unless you plan on overexposing it and printing down.

 

However, if this is for telecine only, you can make either stock match each other in terms of black level.

[David Gascon]

the production is in super 16, and yes, we will use telecine after, probably a Da Vinci Suite. Fuji 500 seem really interesting, but because we will probably use a 200Vision 2 for day scene, I'm a bit concern by mixing both Kodak and Fuji Stock. I really want to create same kind of look. But thank for advice.

 

David G.

[John Pytlak RIP]

Looking for opinion here. If you had to choose between, 200 Vision2, 500 Expression Vision2 and 500 Vision2 film stock to shoot a night scene, with for concern, a very low dept of field and be sure that the black are really black, what of those stock you'll choose?

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To get rich blacks with good shadow detail, I'd suggest the Kodak VISION2 500T Color Negative Film 7218. The Super-16 introduction demo ("The Box") had quite a few night scenes that held up very well:

 

http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/...mentsBest.shtml

 

http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/...Lighthill.shtml

 

http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/...004/kohlP.shtml

 

http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/.../sexcityP.shtml

Edited November 16, 2004 by John_P_Pytlak

[F Bulgarelli]

Hello

 

I shot this music video with 7218 and desaturated the colors in post. We were going for a b&w look and got really good contrast. also, this stock has very little grain.

 

FRancisco

[Greg Gross]

Mr. Bulgarelli,

I really like your shot from the music video here. You have given great

shape,separation,dimension to your character. Thank you for your post

on 7218. I appreciate your use of key and fill. The things that appeal to

me are the wrinkle on the jacket shoulder, use of profile for the face and

dramatic fall off of light towards the rear of the face and head. Its amazing

that the 7218 upheld detail of the ear in the black. The blacks are so rich.

Also like detail and shape of the keys on the horn. This is a very appealing

subject,character.

 

Greg Gross, Professional Photographer

Student Cinematographer

[F Bulgarelli]

Thanks Greg.

 

we were going after a sort of noir look but more modern for the band (being a music video) combined with a more grainy look for the storyline, that was shot with 7222 pushed 1 stop.

If you would like to watch the whole thing please go to:

prettypictures.com/franciscobulgarelli and check out Budhi brown-

 

Regards,

 

Francisco

[Greg Gross]

Francisco,

Thank you very much for info on 7222 and I understand it was pushed

1 stop with most excellent results. I wonder if you would care to comm-

ent on the lens that was used in the 16mm format? As a student of cine-

matography this would start me off with a foundation for lenses. We all

know that cinematographers have favorite lenses for various reasons.

This is the first movie film that has sparked my interest for darkroom

work. I am at a professional level in darkroom skills and I believe I could

shoot and process this film. After a certain period of time in development

this film can actually be looked at in the darkroom(during process of de-

velopment) though only for a few sec. at a time. A #3 filter would be re-

quired with a low watt safelight. I believe the creative possibilities would

be un-ending. I am presently searching for a 16mm camera to purchase.

In the past I have photographed some very famous jazz stars for the Cen-

tral Pennsylvania Jazz Society. I would love to do some work with 7222.

The film is developed in D-96 which is not difficult to use. It would be inter-

esting to see how far I could push it in controlled conditions. Thank you

very much for posting your web site and I will visit it.

Best Regards,

Greg