Mark Williams Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Well you never know! I'd just like the next three if there are any planned to be set not long after the very first three and star as much as possible the original cast members. Its already been done with indiana jones so why not star wars? and please just chill with the new technology and keep to the old winning formula of real film and the well created universe those characters inhabited.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Buick Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 I heard somewhere that George Lucas was planning Episodes 7, 8 and 9 for about 2017, 2020, 2023. But it could have just been a bogus interview written by fans, it was on a dubious looking site that gave my old PC adware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benson Marks Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 I have a bad feeling Lucas has already peaked. After seeing Indiana Jones 4 and Episodes I-III, I think he's lost touch with the folks. So personally, I'm afraid if he makes episodes VII-VIIII, they'll end up being stinkers just like all the other new ones, and I don't think sticking to regular old-fashioned film and older technologies are going to change anything, either. I've heard that The Phantom Menace was shot with the Arriflex 535B camera using anamorphic lenses, which is 35mm. That one was the best of all six movies, right? :P I think the original Star Wars movies and the first three Indy films are probably the ones that will be remembered in George Lucas' once-great legacy. I hope that if there are going to be episodes VII-VIIII, that those movies become great indeed. But by now, sadly, I think George Lucas best days are over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Williams Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 I don't think it has to be that way. I believe that when he made the first three he was in hiis groove part of that was being involved with the latest advances but his formula was so much more than that. The star wars universe and indiana jones created an alternative universe Star trek did this too. The universe it created was a place we'd all like to visit a land we could all wondr at.. It wasnt real it could never be but it was believable and that made it so wonderful. But then to fill it with such wonderful characters and superb casting was the final magic.. Recently we've been treated to technological back steps and a muppet show destroying the magic. Indiana Jones was incredible and yet possible it was the kind of adventures that you might expect special forces to battle in. Now though its been given a dose of unreal Batman type impossible situations and laughs at itself with a script that could have been so much more. Yes I am critical and I am a fan I want to see Lucas vision again riding high.. The world needs cheering up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benson Marks Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 "I believe that when he made the first three he was in hiis groove part of that was being involved with the latest advances but his formula was so much more than that." First three of what? "Recently we've been treated to technological back steps and a muppet show destroying the magic." Huh?!? I'm sorry. If the words muppet show are supposed to be an analogy to something, I can't find what it's supposed to be related to. "Indiana Jones was incredible and yet possible it was the kind of adventures that you might expect special forces to battle in. Now though its been given a dose of unreal Batman type impossible situations and laughs at itself with a script that could have been so much more." No, Ed Wood's "Plan 9 From Outer Space" is a much better analogy. :lol: Just had to say it. "Yes I am critical and I am a fan I want to see Lucas vision again riding high.. The world needs cheering up." Speaking of Batman, "The Dark Knight" is pretty cheerful isn't it? (Sarc. Sorry, I'm just in a playful mood right now) I, on the other hand, believe the world just wants something worth watching, and unfortunately, there isn't a lot that really is worth the $10 a ticket these days. When "Star Wars" first came out, there weren't very many sci-fi movies coming out. Back then, most big blockbusters were epics that took place in Ancient Rome. "Star Wars" sold big, and, in my opinion, the reason why is because it was a very different experience and a lot of people would've been hard pressed to miss out on it, since there weren't any sci-fi movies out at that time. Today, there's hardly anything out there that's worth seeing on the big screen, let alone worth renting from blockbuster. What I think the world wants is a worthwhile moviegoing experience. Something that they wouldn't want to miss out on. Something... Different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Cook Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 If I were a betting man, I'd go all in for Lucas making another great movie that is not related to the Star Wars or Indiana Jones films. It's not like he's a one-hit-wonder. A new exciting concept will grab his attention, and we will see the collimation of thoughts in a film like no other. Will it be better than his early works? I don't know, but it will be different, and very, good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benson Marks Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 If I were a betting man, I'd go all in for Lucas making another great movie that is not related to the Star Wars or Indiana Jones films. It's not like he's a one-hit-wonder. A new exciting concept will grab his attention, and we will see the collimation of thoughts in a film like no other. Will it be better than his early works? I don't know, but it will be different, and very, good. Your wish is Lucas' command. I just heard that Lucas will be releasing "Red Tails," a movie about african-american fighter pilots during WWII. It's supposed to be coming out in '09, which is just around the corner. I wonder how this will turn out, mainly because (and I don't mean to spoil the anticipation) Spike Lee did a movie that was about african-american soldiers during WWII this year called "Miracle at St. Anna," which didn't seem to work well with audiences. Of course, "Red Tails" could be different so I'd better not say this film will flop like Spike Lee's newer movie. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Williams Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 Just imagine the opening of the seventh film.. The death star has just been rebuilt.. Han solo has just escaped from the test planet below targeted for destruction. He manages to evade the tie fighters and death star as it blows apart the penal world below. Luke skywalker has been turned into Darth vader BECAUSE Princess leia blames him for the death of hers and Hans child and that was how he was turned to the darkside.. Han solo and Leia reunite and decide to exact revenge on luke who on reuniting cannot kill Han and the emporer tells him the truth that he wasnt responsible for Han and leias kids death and they will all die together.. They are rescued by a new Jedi group formed and the leader is Leia and Hans other son. Luke then trains his nephew and they prepare for a final battle only it all goes wrong and one of the leading cast members gets killed off.. STORY 2 The rise of the Jedi.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benson Marks Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Just imagine the opening of the seventh film.. The death star has just been rebuilt.. Han solo has just escaped from the test planet below targeted for destruction. He manages to evade the tie fighters and death star as it blows apart the penal world below. Luke skywalker has been turned into Darth vader BECAUSE Princess leia blames him for the death of hers and Hans child and that was how he was turned to the darkside.. Han solo and Leia reunite and decide to exact revenge on luke who on reuniting cannot kill Han and the emporer tells him the truth that he wasnt responsible for Han and leias kids death and they will all die together.. They are rescued by a new Jedi group formed and the leader is Leia and Hans other son. Luke then trains his nephew and they prepare for a final battle only it all goes wrong and one of the leading cast members gets killed off.. STORY 2 The rise of the Jedi.. You're serious on this one, right? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Williams Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 You're serious on this one, right? :lol: yEAS As long as I get to direct. I tell you what an all new death star with CGI the way it is today and a well written story around my ideas would smash box office records. Of course no one is listening such a waste and yes just my humble opinion what do I know anyway. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Buick Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Mark. Happen to need a camera operator? Because I just happen to know someone... :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benson Marks Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 yEAS As long as I get to direct. I tell you what an all new death star with CGI the way it is today and a well written story around my ideas would smash box office records. Of course no one is listening such a waste and yes just my humble opinion what do I know anyway. :P I don't know whether to laugh or to cry over your ideas, Mark. The problem with CGI the way it is today is that it isn't groundbreaking. The original "Star Wars" movies used an awful lot of special effects that made you ask "How did they do it?" Look at the lightsabers and the space battles in "A New Hope" and ask yourself, "How did they do it?" I'll bet most people will have a tough time answering that. Today, if we were to ask the same question on those same lightsabers and space battles, the answer would easily be "They did it on somebody's Macintosh computer." I'm not saying that the death star won't look great after using those fancy computer graphics, but one of the essentials that made "Star Wars" such a great movie was that it was groundbreaking in the special effects category. It was stuff nobody ever saw on the big screen before. The problem is we've seen CGI stuff before and I believe we've already come to that point where we know when something was artificially done on a laptop and when something wasn't. That's going to be a tough one to maneuver through, I think. But the main reason I'm not so sure your ideas are gonna work is because, in my opinion, I think they're a little over-the-top. I would much rather see Luke die in an Obi-Wan manner than see Luke turning over to the dark side. The latter seems a little ridiculous to me. Just being honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Williams Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 Sorry benson completely disagree the original star wars effects worked better because often time they were real models and also because many stunts were real and some of those matte painters were just artists.. Thats whats missing you hit the nail with the CGI that can be seen a mile away.. BUT what sets star wars apart was the very real universe created topped with fantastic casting and acting.. OB1's description of the universe was the best ever. Star wars original trilogy will stand the test of time and become classics like the early walt disney films. The one real problem is that no matter how fancy the effects and how clever the camerawork it all plays second fiddle to a story well told and brilliantly acted. Matt yep you can be my cinematographer... Would you like to see my latest film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Buick Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I think you should actually make this film, or a varitation of it. George Lucas has hosted numerous fan film contest over the years, and I think you'd make a great job of it. The CGI aspect of it would be easy peasy, and the fact that you acknowledge CGI will always be less important that ating or storyline qualifies you immediately. And I was talking about David Mullen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Williams Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 I think you should actually make this film, or a varitation of it. George Lucas has hosted numerous fan film contest over the years, and I think you'd make a great job of it. The CGI aspect of it would be easy peasy, and the fact that you acknowledge CGI will always be less important that ating or storyline qualifies you immediately. And I was talking about David Mullen! Matt you're serious! Sorry I thought you were joking.. I never really thought about that and thats a great idea to get your work seen. George Lucas has been extremely generous to his fans allowing them to make films using Star Wars etc.. You know what that would be a lot of fun to make an offshoot in the Star wars universe.. I'm getting ideas already about a day in the life of.. I'll need stormtroopers the film has to open with a raid! David Mullen as my camera operator??? David? You up for it (Mark runs for cover) I think I may need your services Matt. I need ten stormtroopers or one uniform at least. And Im going to need some effects specialists for the BIG ships sequence I have in mind. Were gonna crash land the new death star on a planet of the inhabitants it was going to wipe out... A survival story of some innocent robots who were responsible for it crashing but who the planets people dont believe and want to torture and turn into drink trollies... A human story in a robots world. Maybe Ill think of something a little easier.. Any ideas please let me know. If there filmable and within my ability and well intended I may have a go... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benson Marks Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 The one real problem is that no matter how fancy the effects and how clever the camerawork it all plays second fiddle to a story well told and brilliantly acted. I managed to come across Wikipedia the other day and found this: "The films of the prequel trilogy feature events, dialogue, and brief references that echo the original trilogy. Lucas has referred to Star Wars as a poem that rhymes. The most well-known of these references is the phrase "I have a bad feeling about this"; The phrase is stated by at least one character in each film. It is one of the first lines in the film and is chronologically the first line spoken by Obi-Wan Kenobi in the films." Do your ideas echo the originals at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Williams Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 I managed to come across Wikipedia the other day and found this: "The films of the prequel trilogy feature events, dialogue, and brief references that echo the original trilogy. Lucas has referred to Star Wars as a poem that rhymes. The most well-known of these references is the phrase "I have a bad feeling about this"; The phrase is stated by at least one character in each film. It is one of the first lines in the film and is chronologically the first line spoken by Obi-Wan Kenobi in the films." Do your ideas echo the originals at all? YES what a great opening line I'd put that in definately... Brilliant idea Benson.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Buick Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Your story idea sound excellent! Though if I'm working on it as a stormtrooper (I hope I can get time) then I'll absolutely insist on at least one Wookiee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Williams Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Your story idea sound excellent! Though if I'm working on it as a stormtrooper (I hope I can get time) then I'll absolutely insist on at least one Wookiee! Although what I need is a few star wars fans with costumes who'd want to get involved that could really influence me into making one.. I just downloaded some 3d models of star wars Yeah lots of fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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