Johnny Roc Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 indie feature. shooting format = 35mm. Buy backs, no short ends. 4 perf. ( 2perf needs DI. ). 1.85 64000 ft of Kodak Vision 500T 5218 and 250D 5205. end goal = film print then: Staying in Film is - cheaper - better quality print There are no effect shots. Any real disadvantages I'm not seeing? For DVDs/internet promos we'd do a standard def telecine onto a Digibeta and the editor would do basic coloring in Final Cut. Main objective is to get that gorgeous 35mm print. Sorry if this is an old topic. thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Drysdale Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 1st generation 35mm prints look wonderful projected. However, if you're doing a telecine from a projection contrast print you may find that it can be a bit dense in the shadows or night scenes. This mightn't an issue, just something to bear in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Wells Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Better to do the telecine from an IP -Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Rakoczy Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Better to do the telecine from an IP -Sam Absolutely... and not from a Lo-Con Print that is 'supposedly' made for telecine. Use the IP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Sprung Posted January 20, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted January 20, 2009 The major studios by now have DI in their pattern budgets. But for a low budget show, if you don't need effects or the more versatile color correction environment, very likely the money is better spent elsewhere in the budget. Lo-Con prints are a strange old thing. The reason for them was that before we had telecine, the only way to get film onto TV was through a "film chain", basically a projector and ordinary TV camera bolted together. Film chains didn't let you do the color correction it takes to go from negative or IP, and projection contrast prints were too contrasty, so Kodak made a special stock just for this. We had an MOW about 20 years ago that did a Lo-Con, that's the only one I've ever seen in person. For this low budget feature, telecine from an IP if you make one in time, otherwise, you need a facility that can handle telecine from the cut negative. Ask about that, because some machines have focus problems at the splices. -- J.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorme Jean-Marie Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 but remember that in the editing any fade transition IS a special effect that needs aditional optical work and a new line in the budget. still the cheapest route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Drysdale Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 but remember that in the editing any fade transition IS a special effect that needs aditional optical work and a new line in the budget. still the cheapest route You can A & B roll the neg for dissolves, although you get charged for setting up each one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Roc Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 does this look right? If we just need 1 print with the ability to make more later, and a possibility of mastering on a HDcam later, do you see any unnecessary steps in here? Is something missing? Do the rates look ok? ( 64,000 ft. processing $0.095 per ft, telecine to DVcam $175/hr for 43 hrs. ) _____________________________________________________________________________ 35mm color answer print, a-roll, liguidgate $0.91 qty: 9270 ft $8435 DLC dynamic light changes ( do i really need this? ) $500 flat 35mm digital optical soundtrack negative $0.54 9270 ft $5005 sync optical soundrack negatives to picture negative $38 6 reels $228 35mm color IP, a-roll, liquidgate $0.945 9270 ft $8760 35mm color internegative $0.89 9270 ft $8250 35mm color check print $0.22 9270 ft $2039 Sub Total: $33,219 ______________________________________________________________________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorme Jean-Marie Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 where is the poetry of cinematography here, i'm lost ! help ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Roc Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 title: money ran out. by johnny roc. johnny roc made a feature but didn't do the math on the screen shows up a creature it's johnny taking a bath where is the poetry of cinematography here, i'm lost ! help ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Paul Bruening Posted January 22, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted January 22, 2009 title: money ran out. by johnny roc. johnny roc made a feature but didn't do the math on the screen shows up a creature it's johnny taking a bath Quite clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Rodgar Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 title: money ran out. by johnny roc. johnny roc made a feature but didn't do the math on the screen shows up a creature it's johnny taking a bath :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorme Jean-Marie Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 title : a towel for johnny roc what's the point of making an interneg if you need just one print save here rather to beg or leave the lab on a sprint ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Roc Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 merci beaucoup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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