Guest Aaron Slade Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 i have a Panasonic Dv Camera, with a Vivitar 0.42x Ultra Wide Angle Lens, a Marucon 2.0x telephoto lens and a Fujinon Close Up Lens. The problem is I dont get the shots I want from these lenses. I know its not much compared to most peoples set up, but i am on a very tight budget. I am after a wide angle lens that gives me the wide shots i love, but also the depth of field (my point of reference are some of those beautiful shots in The Good The Bad The Ugly). I realise for a DV home camera and on a budget ill never get anything looking that, but thats the look im after. If anyone knows of any lenses that will do the trick please let me know. My camera is a 43mm, so it has to be bigger than that. Its hard as most of the shops in my local area will only stock 37mm lenses. The other thing i need is what is a cheap way to create a steadycam? I am doing a lot of shots walking, flollowing the actor, and I need to stop as much movement as a i can. At the moment my solution is to mount it on a tripod, and hold the tripod legs as this extra weight stops me wobbling it as much as i would if i was just carrying the camera. Any solutions anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Wengenroth Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 There was something floating around online about how to make $14 Steadicam type setup. I think if you google "$14 Steadicam" you might find it. I myself have never tried it but you might find it worthwhile. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidSloan Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Asking for the look of The Good the Bad and the Ugly, with a home DV camera is just stupid, and insulting to Delli Colli , I might add. Do a search, there was a thread recently about what stock and lenses Sergio Leone used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aaron Slade Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Asking for the look of The Good the Bad and the Ugly, with a home DV camera is just stupid, and insulting to Delli Colli , I might add. Do a search, there was a thread recently about what stock and lenses Sergio Leone used. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE! Read my question properly before you call me stupid! I said i know I will never get it looking like that. I am not that naive. I dont even want to know what lenses/stock Leone used, i never asked that! My question was if there are any wide angle lenses for home DV cameras that offer more depth of field than the one I am after, and I used The Good The Bad The Ugly as an example. So next time you feel all high and mighty and want to call some stupid and give them advice that they never asked for, maybe read the question properly first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aaron Slade Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Thanks Annie, Ill look up $14 steadycam now. At least you read my question properly! Cheers!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidSloan Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 (edited) I am after a wide angle lens that gives me the wide shots i love, but also the depth of field (my point of reference are some of those beautiful shots in The Good The Bad The Ugly). I realise for a DV home camera and on a budget ill never get anything looking that, but thats the look im after.If anyone knows of any lenses that will do the trick please let me know. You're saying that's the look you're after, not just "I want a lens with more depth of field." Edited December 13, 2004 by DavidSloan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted December 13, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted December 13, 2004 Use the lens that comes on your DV camera with a wide-angle attachment for a wide-angle look because it will be hard to find 35mm still camera lenses with a short-enough focal length, if you're trying to fit those onto a DV camera (I'm not clear as to what lenses you are talking about). You'll get plenty of deep focus in DV -- it's the one thing that is EASY to get with a camera with small CCD's. It's shallow-focus that is hard to get. What DV camera are you using and what's the focal-length range of the zoom that comes on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidSloan Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 I have to agree with Mr. Mullin. I'm a bit confused as to how you're having deep focus problems on a DV camera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aaron Slade Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Im only having the problem when i use my ultra wide angle lens. Virtually everything more than 10 meters away is out of focus, although what is in the 10 meters near the camera does look pretty cool. I want the same wide shot but without the background going out of focus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted December 13, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted December 13, 2004 Something must be wrong with your lens. In DV, on a wide-angle lens, almost everything is in-focus especially outdoors with the aperture stopped down. Sounds like your lens is stuck focused at minimum distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riku Naskali Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 I'd say you don't need that add-on wide-angle lens for anything, you get more than enough depth of field without it. And better pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard mellor Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 well you could build a static adapter for less than $150 that will give you 35mm film depth of field.http://www.dvinfo.net/media/mellor/aldu-test-44.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard mellor Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 well you could build a static adapter for less than $150 that will give you 35mm film depth of field.http://www.dvinfo.net/media/mellor/aldu-test-44.jpg <{POST_SNAPBACK}> or buy this for $45,000. http://www.pstechnik.de/pstechnik.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Achterberg Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 or buy this for $45,000. http://www.pstechnik.de/pstechnik.htm <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 45g's? that does NOT sound right. Should be somewhere around 4-8 thousand no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Mastrogiacomo Posted December 31, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted December 31, 2004 Im only having the problem when i use my ultra wide angle lens. Virtually everything more than 10 meters away is out of focus, although what is in the 10 meters near the camera does look pretty cool. I want the same wide shot but without the background going out of focus <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What kind of a wide angle lens adapter are you using? I have the same problem when I use a non focusable Century Fisheye adapter on my BetaSP camcorder. The only way to focus it is by using the macro function of the regular lens. It doesn't give you the DOF you expect from a WA lens. My zoom thru WA adapter works fine. Did you try changing the focus distance of your regular lens when you had the WA attachment on? :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Downes Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 I had the same problem with a setup I ran (Super8 for me) and the secret turned out to set your camera on Macro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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