Guy Meachin Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 I've noticed that many 'reality' war drama's and films like Saving Private Ryan are shot with fast shutters that give that strobing kind of feel. What sort of shutter speed are we looking at to create this? If it's a seriously high shutter speed then how do they get enough light to compensate for this? Do they overlight? Does the type of stock have an influence? Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Sprung Posted April 20, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted April 20, 2005 Try about 45 degrees, which is two stops down. I really don't like the short shuttered look. Real combat footage isn't like that. -- J.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adam Frisch FSF Posted April 21, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted April 21, 2005 It's been done to death. Avoid like the plague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Hamrick Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 It's been done to death. Avoid like the plague. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Especially in the last ten or fifteen years since video cameras have added the feature.It looks cool for certain scenes,Gladiator had some nice high speed shutter shots,I can't imagine another way to do it.It doesn't look "real",but what you're going for is a "push yourself to the envelope's edge feel".When the adreneline rush makes everything seem hyper real.If you're gonna use it be sparing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Pytlak RIP Posted May 7, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted May 7, 2005 By reducing motion blur, the image becomes more "strobey". Can be especially disconcerting on a really big screen, less so on a video monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Alessandro Machi Posted May 7, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted May 7, 2005 Try about 45 degrees, which is two stops down. I really don't like the short shuttered look. Real combat footage isn't like that.-- J.S. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> True, but from a psychological point of view the shorter shutter creates the feeling that each moment in time is a violent snapshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Wells Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I think that Saving Private Ryan was a 90 degree shutter. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted May 16, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted May 16, 2005 I think that Saving Private Ryan was a 90 degree shutter. Matt <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 45 degrees for most of the extreme strobiness you see during the battle scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Stephen Williams Posted May 16, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted May 16, 2005 45 degrees for most of the extreme strobiness you see during the battle scenes. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> David, Do you know if the camera was shooting at 24fps for the battle scenes? Stephen Williams DP www.stephenw.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted May 16, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted May 16, 2005 David, Do you know if the camera was shooting at 24fps for the battle scenes? Stephen Williams DP www.stephenw.com <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, except when it wasn't. It was undercranked to 6 or 8 fps and stretch-printed for that strobey, blurring moment when Hanks loses his hearing and sees the soldier pick-up his own arm off the ground. There was probably other frame rate changes elsewhere but overall, it's shot at normal speed with a short shutter angle, not slightly undercranked like to 18 fps like some people have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Adlerstein Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 In the AC article from Aug. '98 Kaminski also talks about throwing the cameras shutter out of sync -- adjusting the phase relationship of the shutter to the movement -- where the film is being exposed while in transport as opposed to being rock steady. He says it created a nice streaking effect on the highlights in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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