Jacek Zagaja Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I'm looking for service manual - spring motor does not work and I need advicd how to get access. Overall cleaning and maintenace needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dom Jaeger Posted January 10, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted January 10, 2015 Not sure that a service manual exists, apart from Bolex I've never seen service manuals for any Standard 8 cameras. The Beaulieu MR8 and TR8 models are among the trickiest Standard 8 cameras to disassemble and service, with their tiny shuttling reflex mirrors and variable shutter angle mechanisms. The springs are a weak point, or specifically the winding arm mechanism, which can easily be overwound and broken. I would recommend just buying another one if you want to use these delightful cameras for filming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacek Zagaja Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 Problem with MR8 is viewfinder - focusing screen. How to clean from both sides? Focusing is so dificult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dom Jaeger Posted January 22, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted January 22, 2015 Assuming the problem is the back side of the focussing screen, you have to remove the mechanism from the housing to access it. But it might also be at the eyepiece end, the internal surface of the diopter will also show up dirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacek Zagaja Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 Eyepiece is always ok. So take off front cover? Doesn't want come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dom Jaeger Posted January 23, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted January 23, 2015 I had a look over my notes on this camera again. You need to remove the cover plate under the lens port that is held by 4 tiny screws and undo the screw beneath, plus the exposed screw above the lens port. Then inside the camera you need to pull out the pressure plate, remove the plate above it (2 screws), the lower film guide (1 screw) and then the large plate with the 2 pressure plate posts that covers the pull down and variable shutter arms (2 screws). Under that plate, parallel to the gate, are 2 similar screws that you undo to remove the front. Don't undo the other 2 screws, or any of the screws on the gears. You can now access the mirror and viewing screen. When you reassemble, seat the gate into the front properly and do up the front screws first, so the flange depth is correct, then do up the 2 screws inside. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacek Zagaja Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 Thanks for hints. I'm shooting first roll before any servicing to see lens condition. First problem - can't hear film end. Film indicator on removable side moves quickly, don't understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dom Jaeger Posted January 28, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted January 28, 2015 The user manual covers questions like that, easily found with google: http://www.apecity.com/manuals/pdf/beaulieu_r8.pdf or http://www.marriottcameras.co.uk/instructions/beaulieu_r8/with_pictures.htm The round indicator on the door is a frame counter, you use it to count individual frames when doing stop motion or lap dissolves. The footage counter is on the other side of the camera, 2 windows in meters and feet. It is directly connected to the spring loaded arm that rests against the film winding on to the take-up spool, so it tells you exactly how much film you've shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacek Zagaja Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 Camera works, frame counter too but lens Angenieux K1 is so so :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dom Jaeger Posted February 4, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted February 4, 2015 If you want the best image quality for standard 8 probably use primes. That 9-36 K1 zoom is historically quite important though, it was the first zoom Angenieux produced, back in 1956, and ushered in the era of the modern mechanically compensated zoom that is Angenieux's contribution to cinematographic history. It led directly to the 17-68 for 16mm in 1958 (sometimes mistakenly cited as Angenieux's first zoom since little 8mm is so often overlooked). The mechanically compensated zoom design breakthrough led to the possibility of greater zoom ranges such as 10x and more, eventually leading to zooms like Angenieux's 24-290 which has dominated feature film sets for the last decade. A direct line from your little D mount lens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacek Zagaja Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Mine is scratched (rear lens). I'm keeping body and looking for better lens. I like this camera very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacek Zagaja Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 Bought Pan Cinor 8-40 1.9 lens for my MR8. Can you tell me how to adjust viewfinder? Image rotates when I rotate viewfinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacek Zagaja Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 What type of battery fits MCR8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacek Zagaja Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 PX625 cell works. How to use fade-in-out? 0-1-2-3-4 lever is blocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livio Colombo Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 On 1/23/2015 at 2:21 AM, Dom Jaeger said: You need to remove the cover plate under the lens port that is held by 4 tiny screws and undo the screw beneath, plus the exposed screw above the lens port. Then inside the camera you need to pull out the pressure plate, remove the plate above it (2 screws), the lower film guide (1 screw) and then the large plate with the 2 pressure plate posts that covers the pull down and variable shutter arms (2 screws). Under that plate, parallel to the gate, are 2 similar screws that you undo to remove the front. Don't undo the other 2 screws, or any of the screws on the gears. Hallo to everybody. Dom, I read this old post of yours. I have the some problem: very dark and very dirty groundglass. I followed your instructions, but after undoing the 'similar screw', under 'that plate, parallel to the gate', which I think they are the 2 in the red circles in the picture, the front doesn't come out. Am I undoing the wrong screws? Another problem is on the 6,5-52 Angenieux zoom: the focusing ring is quite wobbling: any way to fix it? Many thanks Livio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Simon Wyss Posted August 25, 2021 Premium Member Share Posted August 25, 2021 Quite the wrong screws. In caso di emergenza prenderei la presa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livio Colombo Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Thanks Simon but can you tell which are the right ones? 1 hour ago, Simon Wyss said: In caso di emergenza prenderei la presa. I'm afraid I can't understand what you mean with this italian phrase. Literally it means something like: "In case of an emergency, I'd take the power socket"... 8-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Simon Wyss Posted August 26, 2021 Premium Member Share Posted August 26, 2021 Forgive me, I thought you’d speak Italian judging from your name and location. Presa is the abbreviation of cinepresa. Camera cinematografica. The right screws are these. Maybe it’s better to give the Beaulieu to an experienced person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livio Colombo Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Thanks Simon but I'm afraid there's no screws where your yellow arrows point (see pic). Unfortunately the really reliable "experienced persons" here around (Milano) are getting rarer: Franco Pezzoli (also a Bolex authorized repairman) was the last, but he retired, and we really miss him . You're right, I'm italian indeed, but is the first time I heard using the word "presa" for "cinepresa". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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