Gerrit Fahr Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Hi All, I'm going through the lens inventory at my university and I'm struggling to come up with information on these two 16mm film lenses. https://imgur.com/a/g4sceWU What I know is they are Zeiss lenses with a Distagon design and both cover S16. They appear to have originally had B-mounts and were retrofitted to PL. The lens listed "1" seems like a newer cine-designed lens while the other lens "2," appears to have had a cine-mod done. I believe that the first might just be a newer version of the other. I'm not sure if the Super Speed nomenclature carries over to the S16 film lenses from Zeiss as well, but I have a hunch it might. Does anyone know of a specific name these lenses might have, or of any internal differences between the two? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dom Jaeger Posted January 21, 2021 Premium Member Share Posted January 21, 2021 Yes these are 16mm format Zeiss Super Speeds, just different generations. Zeiss called them High Speed Primes for 16mm, but most people call them Super Speeds or B Speeds (if they had a Bayonet mount). The optics are basically the same across generations, but the first versions have a 6 blade iris while later versions have a triangular (Reaulieux) shaped aperture. See: http://cinematechnic.com/resources/zeiss_super_speed_f1-2_lenses/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrit Fahr Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 5:38 PM, Dom Jaeger said: Yes these are 16mm format Zeiss Super Speeds, just different generations. Zeiss called them High Speed Primes for 16mm, but most people call them Super Speeds or B Speeds (if they had a Bayonet mount). The optics are basically the same across generations, but the first versions have a 6 blade iris while later versions have a triangular (Reaulieux) shaped aperture. See: http://cinematechnic.com/resources/zeiss_super_speed_f1-2_lenses/ Thank you Dom, this was incredibly helpful. I had been using this article from Duclos lenses for our 35mm format super speeds, but I was struggling to find the comparable work written on the 16mm format lenses. https://thecinelens.com/2016/08/24/whats-in-a-name-a-guide-to-zeiss-super-speeds/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Drysdale Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Operationally, the big difference was that the MK1 Super Speeds had wings, so that you could pull focus with the Arri 16 BL, which had a blimp around the lens. The focus scale was also rather compressed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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