Anyone need a Crystal Sync motor for Kinor 16CX cameras?

[Aapo Lettinen]

I have one spare Kinor 16 motor which I don't need and I am building crystal sync electronics for my other motor in Autumn 2022 to use it for personal projects so I think I could easily modify the spare motor at the same time and sell it for someone who would need it.

Is there anyone here still actively shooting with Kinor 16 cameras and who would like to purchase a custom made crystal sync motor for it?

The price of the motor + the modification work is around 650usd + shipping.

It is a 12-speed crystal sync modification with variable non-crystal speed knob for speed ramps. Does not have a display or other advanced features (adding a display would raise the price a lot so I think it would be more practical to not include any displays to keep the motor relatively affordable). I am removing the old electronics housing from the top of the motor and installing a black aluminium box in the place of it which houses the new electronics.  The speed selector of the new motor can be either on the top of the motor or on the back or the right side of it.

Please let me know before August 2022 if you are interested in this Kinor motor. I will need to know well beforehand modificating my own motor if anyone wants to buy this spare one so that I can modify them at the same time.

[Aapo Lettinen]

Anyone interested in ordering a crystal sync Kinor motor?

I changed the specs a little to make it as streamlined as possible with super simple user interface and still affordable and good specs.

The design is as follows:

- original Kinor 16 motor modified with completely new control electronics to run in true crystal sync on all speeds. Includes the motor and the modification work because I have a spare motor I want to sell

- the original electronics housing removed from the motor and replaced with a roughly similar sized black aluminium housing

- 9 internal crystal speed presets and the possibility to input external speed input

- no internal variable speed. But variable speed can be made using a affordable external controller sold by me (about 100usd for variable speed only, about 300usd for multi-speed external crystal speed generator)

- Speeds selectable via a very simple thumbwheel selector. Speeds can be changed when the motor is running.

- price: 550usd + shipping including the motor and the modification work

- delivery time: from 3 to 4 weeks after purchase so that I have time for the assembly, surface finish and testing

Internal speed presets, all crystal:

- 6fps

- 12fps

- 12.5fps

- 23.976fps

- 24.00 fps

- 25.00 fps

- 30.00fps

- 48.00fps

- 50.00fps

Let me know if wanting to order this motor. I have all the boards and parts needed and can start building as soon as the order is complete.

[Aapo Lettinen]

I scheduled the Kinor motor crystal modification work to between December 2023 and February 2024. If anyone would need a motor to be crystal modified, please contact me in November2023 so that I can arrange the parts and machining in time.

The current plan is to make a 45-speed or 50-speed crystal motor with a selector enabling choosing crystal speed in 1fps steps. So very good speed options, possibly a variable speed knob too, but likely no counters or other extra features. Price for the modification work is something around 600usd + shipping depending on how many can be modified in the batch.

This is likely going to be the only batch I make of these Kinor crystal sync modifications so if wanting this kind of system, please make sure to let me know before December if interested in one. I will want to make all of them at the same time to make it worthwile in the first place and after that will continue to other projects

Edited October 6, 2023 by aapo lettinen

[Aapo Lettinen]

There was no interest towards the original Kinor motor modification so this project is discontinued.

I will continue working on my Universal Crystal Motor system and there will be adapter gear available to use that motor with Kinor cameras.

If you want original Kinor motors crystal modified, please contact Olex as he should have solutions available for the original motors for reasonable prices.

If wanting to use my Universal motor system with the Kinor, there is couple of options available and delivery time typically about 2 to 3 months after payment.

 

[Aapo Lettinen]

I am working on a very compact 4-speed crystal motor which fits Kinor cameras. here is the thread

https://cinematography.com/index.php?/forums/topic/103252-alcs-4-speed-universal-crystal-motor-for-kinor16-eclair-acl-etc-cameras/

[Aapo Lettinen]

On 3/29/2025 at 6:16 PM, Aapo Lettinen said:

I am working on a very compact 4-speed crystal motor which fits Kinor cameras. here is the thread

https://cinematography.com/index.php?/forums/topic/103252-alcs-4-speed-universal-crystal-motor-for-kinor16-eclair-acl-etc-cameras/

Will have the Kinor mounting parts for my 4-speed and 2-speed and 10-speed motors ready in June2025.

I will try to build some extra 4-speed ones so that would have couple of those motors in stock later on.

BUT if you need 2-speed or 10-speed motors for Kinor16, let me know very super ASAP because I have only one partially assembled motor available anymore, will use the other one for my Kinor2m I will sell later this year. SO there is two of those partially assembled motors which I can build to either 2-speed or 10-speed Kinor motors but can only sell one of them as needing the other motor body for the sales camera. The 2-speed and 10-speed motors are that older model which has wild variable speed and can do wild high framerates up to about 75 or 80fps and up to 50fps crystal sync. The 4-speed only has crystal speeds from 16fps to 33.333fps and no variable speed but is much smaller sized than the 2-speed/10-speed and is compatible with Eclair ACL if changing the axle adapter and mounting parts.

If you happen to need a Kinor2m camera with 12-120mm zoom lens and lots of 30m/100ft magazines and at least one 122m/400ft magazine, let me know. Will sell it with the 10-speed Universal motor in Summer. the deal is such that to purchase the camera, 50% of it needs to be paid in advance. I will then cla the camera body and shoot a short film project with it to verify that it is working. When getting the material back and confirmed the camera is perfectly working the other 50% is paid and I will ship the camera.

[Okto Simaia]

If only I could get my hands on a Kinor-16 to use it with. 😛

[Aapo Lettinen]

51 minutes ago, Okto Simaia said:

If only I could get my hands on a Kinor-16 to use it with. 😛

It could be a pretty good deal to buy my Kinor kit with the 10-speed motor if you don't have the camera yet and want to use that motor type with that camera model. The motor alone costs about 1k and I was thinking of selling the whole kit for 2k with the motor included. I have a partial spare parts camera and other stuff which can maybe be included too, the idea of selling the camera body was just to get rid of extra cameras I don't normally have time to use for my own projects and to get some extra movie projects shot when testing the cameras preparing them for shipping. and selling one extra motor. selling the camera body itself does not create any revenue, I am just including a new motor with it to get money from the motor sale 😄