Daren Findling

It is really easy for anyone with a basic understanding of motion images to see that Phil's posts are beyond foolish. I can understand why Jim got upset but I feel even acknowledging someone with as little understanding as Phil is a huge waste of time.

The red cameras I have worked with can only show the power status of the red brick batteries. Seems like red made it so that their batteries are the only ones that can use this feature. All other V-mount batteries I used worked fine with the camera but they all read AC on the back pannel.

I have heard that the 18-85 might be a rebranded russian lens. This lens shows a lot more promise.

They are indeed the $400 sigma 18-50. I do however suspect that a division of cooke is rehousing them although cooke would never admit or want that information to get out.

Think ARRI 235 kind of weight. Or if you are not that familiar with a 235 as it is fairly new think just slightly lighter then a 435 set up. All in all it is actually quite light as far as profesional cine cameras go.

Lens numbers set in meter's, feet or even cubit's means nothing without witness marks.

I have seen both the old and new OLPF versions side by each and the the new version has the filter placed a noteable difference further from the sensor. What happened is simple. People tend to believe what they want to hear, not what is factual or even logical. You can walk up to a five year old kid and say this camera is here is a red and it is worth about the same as your dads car and this other camera is a f23 and it is worth as much as 10 of your dads cars. Then ask him which camera is better. I have a feeling the five year old will display more logic then a lot of reduser members. You get what you pay for. That said the red is looking great for what it is. I just don't expect it to be better then a viper, genisis, dalsa or f23. As long as a red camera comes close to those cameras and is better then a sony 900 it is a good deal.

Hi Guys It was not intended to be a personal attack. I merely was trying to lighten up the mood. After reading the largest rant I have ever read with a very condesending tone I thought I would try and lighten it up. I have now just read the posts that followed and I see it did not lighten up one little bit. Oh well. PS- I do not see it as unprofessional at all. In fact I have met a lot of very highly proffesional A-list DP's and directors that smoke weed :lol:

Are you by chance high?

Stephen did you only have to pay $30 because you are so rediculously good looking?

Have a fun field trip. Hey Daniel I appologize if I came across overly harsh which I feel I did. I felt you were mocking and not willing to openly listen to facts. That said because of the NDA I am unable to get into greater detail then I posted so I can see where it would be confusing. Thing is lart was a gibcor test and like I tried to explain and Jim also mentioned red was not involved in any way in any of the tests. Hope we can continue on and leave this behind Daniel. PS- Fiji women are beautiful, so is your teacher hot? (ha)

I had heard there were far less children here then red user but I guess I found one in a big hurry Danny. Go off don't read posts properly and make your assumptions based on your made up little ideas. All I can tell you is what you are reading into the information you have is wrong, I can not go into any further detail due to NDA. Not that you could understand it anyway. Have a good time in high school tomorrow Danny.

No academic discussion here. Like I said you guys have no idea what you are talking about. I was an invited member of LART, was there for the whole time and saw exactly what took place. I mentioned this earlier. Did you miss it?

You have interpreted what you read wrongly.

Yep and I'd drink his beer!

Okay Daniel so you are building a deck and I am your next door neighbor. I see you building a deck and say hey here's my hammer but you can only hold it and look at it and not use it. Now was I really involved in any way in your deck project? I do not see how I can make it any simplier then that. Red was not involved in the testing.

Max honestly you have no clue what you are talking about here. From what I saw Jim post is that he was distancing himself from the NDA. In fact I was very suprised that there was not more of a presence from red at the tests as it was a very good publicity and meet the future customers opportunity. Like I said red was not involved in any of the actual testing. Not that I exactly am sure what half naked women and stunt fighting have to do with testing. David Mullen, Matt Uhry and I had the chance to hold up in a dark office and do some good old fashioned standard, boring lens and camera tests that should give some decent results though (It was actually a fair amount of fun as David and Matt are great).

Wrong conclusion. Any company that knows that a large number of their current and potential customers are getting together very near to their company headquarters would be foolish not to drop by and offer some new insight and items. In fact I was very suprised in what I felt was a very small showing by red, I would have thought more representitives of the company would have shown up. Red was not involved in any real manner in testing though.

I see Stephen Williams has been talking behind my back. So is a HOFF loving S.O.B. welcome to join this party over here?