Andries Molenaar

Plenty professionals and amateurs do E6 processing themselves with excellent results. Baumgarten is of little use if you want your films back within 3 months or something and are prepared to make reservations ahead of time. Quite useless. And he applies about them same technique as others who process as a small scale lab. Nothing advanced there. There plenty labs large and small in USA, Europe and other continents who do excellent work.

Hmm, why do you ask me? I wasn't there nor do I work with Wittner or Kodak. I merely pointed to the article of interest. There are now far more pictures. If you click one you get a larger picture and you can advance it as in a slideshow. I am not a native speaker of english but the description clearly describres a very large machine which fills cartridges fully automaticly. The cartridges are prepared by hand and set in a large container which can be connected to the machine. All visible in the pictures.

One option is to put the camera in manual exposure mode. Use your handheld exposure meter and set the aperture according to the reading. You can also use the internal meter. Adjust it a bit from the metered value. The ND filters are there to reduce the incoming light and allow for a larger aperture to get less DOF

Found this little reference. Seems they used a lot of MFX on the surveillance of Nuclear sites. . EVOLUTION OF CONTAINMENT AND SURVEILLANCE - THE FIRST FOUR DECADES 1957-1997 /5/ The IAEA was established in 1957 as a functional organization, including the commencement of inspections at nuclear facilities in member states. The first inspections began in the early 1960s at small research reactors, and expanded in 1962 to power reactors. Although there was little C/S equipment available for use, it was in this time frame that the first use of C/S began. Several commercially available seals were placed in use, initially on a trial basis. In the fall of 1966, the IAEA was using the US Internal Revenue Service (IRS) seal. Brookhaven National Laboratory (BNL) in the US later developed solder techniques designed to strengthen the tamper resistance of these seals. When implemented for IAEA Safeguards on a routine basis, the IRS seal became known as the "Type E" seal. Even after 40 years, it is still in use. No optical surveillance or monitors were in use in the first decade of the IAEA. Starting in the second decade after 1967, a variety of equipment was introduced. In the area of seals, the backbone became the aforementioned Type E metallic seal. Today, after several modifications, it remains the most widely used seal. Adhesive (paper) seals were introduced, principally for short term sealing applications. The first fibre optic seal, termed Fiber Lock, was developed and offered for evaluation by the US Arms Control and Disarmament Agency (ACDA). Also, the development of electronic seals began at Forschungszentrum Jülich in Germany, and Sandia National Laboratories (SNL) in the US. By early 1976, the IAEA had about 60 optical surveillance systems in use, including several types of single frame 35mm, 16mm, 8mm, Super 8mm cameras, and a few custom made video units. This came about as a result of the rapidly expanding commercial market for in-dustrial and home use of film-based movie photography. These systems included: Film Systems - One of the first optical surveillance devices used was the 35mm Robot Cam-era, custom made for the IAEA by a German vendor. This system was mains powered and had an 8,000 frame capacity, with time recorded on each frame from a battery operated 24 hour clock. It produced excellent picture quality, and was evaluated in several nuclear facili-ties in Europe and South America. Throughout this decade, numerous commercial film cameras were developed and appeared on the market. A number of these systems were evaluated by the IAEA, and to a limited degree, used in field applications. These systems included: . Zeiss 35mm Contarex camera . Flight Research 35mm camera . Bolex 16mm camera . 8mm Minolta D-4 camera (first 8mm system) . Minolta D-6 camera . Minolta D-10 camera . Kodak Analyst Super 8mm camera . Minolta XL-400 and XL-401 Super 8mm cameras The first models of the Minolta XL-400 camera system used a French mechanical timer, were battery operated, with constant or random picture taking time-intervals, and had a 3,600 frame capacity. Later models had an electronic built-in timer, a 7,200 frame capacity, and used Ko-dak MFX film. By 1978, the Twin Minolta XL-401 camera system, after a number of timer 6 modifications, became the primary IAEA optical surveillance system, and was in worldwide use for well over two decades, until it was replaced by video systems. In some cases, inspectors had to develop the film in the bathtubs/sinks of their hotel rooms, producing a variety of inconveniences and results. The inspectors later used the Porto-PAC dry process Kodak developer for processing the film. Use of this developer eliminated the hotel room-bathtub-film developing routine.

The edit facility is really quickly disabled. The Orwo and Fomapan can be had in S8 from Wittner. The Macophot is/was? available in Infra-Red and in 135

You could of course shoot some pieces using red and dark-red filter. Run it at low speed for long exposure times. Don't expect any dramatic effect like on real Infra-red film. Kodak has discontinued their infra-read products and you would be amazed at the prices these films now get at eBay. You could also check on the red-sensitivity of Orwo or Fomapan. Now, if anybody had a S8 or 8mm perforator it would still be possible to slit and perf some Macophot and shoot clips of 1.5meter or something. Or even long rolls if they would sell these.

Better check if the film is sensitive at all in low or past visible red. Otherwise you will end up with very dark film :) I doubt it is.

What processing was applied to this MFX? I have a number of these cartridges too and don't to wreck too much film while attempting to find times and chemistry. Thanks!

That would happen with most if not all super-8 cameras. The transport-indicator is connected to the drive axis and just goes up and down while this rotates. The drive stops when the gate feeler senses the cut-away at the end of the film. Don't blame the camera for jammed cartridges :) All cameras will keep the motor running and let their pickup-driver slip. Better listen to the sound of the film unwinding in the cartridge. Or mind unusal sounds.

This is just a bunch of assumed conspiracy arguments.

Well, closure is not mentioned. :) If Kodak want to group film-packaging together they may have to move a few of the machines. That may require some heavy lifting. Or some disassembly and assembly.

Now a detailed report by mr and mrs Wittner in english with nice photos of the full manufacturing process of Kodak S8 cartridges: Wittner report in english Much better then these sour gripes on the format you see everywhere.

You didn't happen to buy this untested camera from ebay Hungary?

Last night the pages never completed. There is something really wrong. This morning it is better but that is because USA is sound asleep :) Opening a reply/quote screen is still a major thing and takes tiiiiiiime. Whatever the improvement was. It hasn't helped the performance.

Amazon is hardly a serious equipment supplier. You need a frim tripod with a pan-head or video-head for at least 4lbs. try a Gitzo 1340 with 2380 fluid head or a 1270 pan head. good for photography too although the 1270 doesn't go backward enough if you want to shoot something in the sky or on high buildings.

7 months is nothing and never a problem. unless it was kept in the glove comparment of a car in the sahara. for a number of years. If if were all that sensitive it would be unusable as a consumer item. Which Super-8 is. Does anybody think tens of millions of people 30 years ago kept their films in the fridge, just to film family life???

Well, if LOndon isn't good enough try directly Andec for quick and affordable. Or Super8.nl for personal service and quick processing.

Well, I thought 'some film' meant 2-3 cartridges. I have some old ones which he could buy for his experiment something (bucket or scratch proccessing, whatever) . But then he expects an address to order 100000 or 1000000 feet from newly produced film. Apart from the money involved for this experiment. Maybe you have a big freezer? :lol:

Don't bother. In OP's mind - Some film - could be around 1,000,000 feet :) Freshly produced and easily ordered :) :)

It is not the execution of maintenance. It is about the apparent effect on the experienced performance. Everything takes for ever to appear on screen. Parts of the page parade in very slow and it takes easily 30 secs before a simple page is complete. Either it is now hosted on server which lost its way in its data or the hosting provider has a lousy connection. If there are geographic differences (i.e. USA fast, rest slow) then there is a bad peer-agreement with the internet-exchange of that connection.

Indeed a robot/automaton. Double servers with double connections etc. Works nicely and bids just into the last few seconds. No emails to others. So that keeps out a few responses. It is a paid service. Either with a period subscription or a pay per successfull bid. There are also application which run from your own computer. Some for free. But then it must be on and the line must be up too. :)

It would indeed be hard to build a compendium yourself. :) But the rods are simple aluminium tubes which can be had at a few Euro. And cutting these to length isn't rocket science :)

Well, it is so slow that I actually use a 2nd instance of the webbrowser to have somehting to do while it pulls the inforamtion from here. Used to do that in the past when I had only 19 or 33 kbps modems. For bidding you might consider: www.bidnapper.com Although they now have an advanced page whcih loads slower but is then faster while using it. I am not suer how well your 1994 computer will handle that. The service is really a sharp bidder. Never misses and it can save some nightrest when auctions close mid night.

I thought I sent you a PM but I cannot locate in the sent messages? I am in Netherlands on top quality provider network. I just installed a new and very fast computer. And it is just the same extreme slowness which no other site suffers. In EU or USA. So, it is the traffic from your hosting-provider I suppose.

Looks nice, but it is the rods and camera-base only. :( They produce it is in series? With some MDF woodwork and 2 15mm aluminium tubes the same can easily be achieve in DIY The Chrosziel matte box is going to cost over Euro 500.