Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

Seeing the registration of the sprockets pretty much says it all with a cine' scan...at least that is what I'm thinking. I was scanning an old 1930's 8mm called El Perro Masajista aka The Mexican Massage Dog. It is in pretty rough shape. So, I thought I'd do something different and scan about 3/4 of the sprockets and a thin black border around the frame to be more artsy and / or distract a little from the low I.Q. Normally I would not even bother with a film like this, but it is pretty rare. It is an old stag...so you can figure out what it is about. I had never scanned so much of the sprockets before. When I looked at it, I was pretty impressed with the Retroscan's registration, even with clear edge film. I thought the Retroscan registration was bad due to a jumpy picture. But it occurred to me, since a lot of these films I get are duped and duped and duped, the poor registration of the image is built into the film copy. Even with rock steady registration in the scan, the image jumps around because the image has been duped to death in haphazard ways. <><><><> Cyanotype DDTJRAC

Yes, me too. I will defer to those that know more about this than I do. But it sounds right to me, as it was explained in the OP.

eBay Photo: Fair Use Amazing what people come up with for solving the scanning cine' film problem. Res is 1.3mp 1280x1024. Too bad it is not higher res. Me? Have no interest in building things. Just want to get the output as simply, as inexpensively and as quickly as possible. AKA...I'm an end user. But isn't that want most people want? Easy, cheap and fast. BUT...it has to be decent quality. I don't like signing my name to shit. Even if my brain required complexities in my life...I couldn't afford it and still get my work done. Some people like complexities...their brain requires it. But if we didn't have the brainy people...we wouldn't get the film scanners built! <><><><> Statue of Liberation through Christ, Memphis TN 2016 Selection from The Americans...60 years after Frank artist's book. By D.D.Teoli Jr. Backstory... I had boondocked outside of Memphis at a Loves truck stop parking lot. I got into Memphis about 9AM. The sun was behind the statue. No time to screw around waiting for the lighting to change. I scouted the best option for 15 minutes and this was the result. Within 20 minutes of my arrival, I was on the road. I drove by Graceland and got a few shots of the graffiti wall. By 5.30PM I was in Paris, TX. Barely enough time to get some shots at that destination before sunset...light was failing fast. ....and was back on the road again. 3000 miles, $500 in gas, boondocked all the way. Showers at truck stops for $15 a pop. Most of my time for the project was spent on both coasts. But one can't neglect Mid-America and still get a proper snapshot of America.

My apologies if I was harsh in my earlier reply to you Robert. http://www.kinetta.com/images/clipboard.jpg?crc=416629225 From what I recall I had written them years ago, but am not sure. If I did write them, I got no reply. I will give them another try.

Kinetta? I had looked into them years ago, but could not find out much or how to buy one.

Thanks for the info, Dan. Yes, it sounds like it is not for me. I like things as simple as possible. Cine' film work is just a small area I work in and I don't have the time or the knowledge for highly technical machines. I had settled on the HDS or an Archivist to order. I had a sponsor that was ready to buy one for the Archive. But things didn't work out and the sponsor eventually retracted the offer due to financial reasons on their part coupled with my indecision on ordering a scanner. I am usually very fast to make decisions. But members have brought up audio issues with the HDS. And I've written many times about email issues I have had with Lasergraphics. As well as Tyler had said the HDS is not that easy a machine to use. After reading this feedback, I was not in a rush to buy a $50,000 paperweight and was trying to put in more study time. I am happy for your friend! Glad he found a scanner that works for him and is preserving history + he makes $$ at it! You can't beat that!!

Does he build the machines or is he the salesman Tyler? Right now, as I write this, I'm scanning the Crossdressing Beatnik 8mm film on my Retroscan on a split screen. I'm pretty busy as well. Just make no money at my busyness.

I don't run a business, Robert. I run an open content Archive. I've run it like this for years. I got a phone in my car Robert. A cheap $85 a year Tracfone. But as I said to him, I'm pretty much email. I'm not talking to you on a phone Robert. Never have. Yet we have communicated for some time. Years ago, I wrote to a guy in 1998 in Inverness Scotland. He made Moniack Mead. It was the finest mead in the world. Made from caramelized heather honey. He had no email account. He only communicated by mail via a typewriter. Should I have written him off Robert? No email? Must not have been serious. All anyone has to do is Google my name or my Archive or do an image search of me Robert. That tells them how serious I am about my work. I never lie to people. I tell them up front the info is for future interest or reference. Are rich people like you Robert, the only ones allow to study up options and learn?

. I'd buy it in a second, but no room and already in the $$ hole this month. Waiting for new credit card cycle. Wooden case or casket as some call it. If you are short on space, it only needs a small footprint when folded up. I guess the kids call it 'small form factor.' Opened up This was the film they rented you for it. Example film, not in the listing. VINTAGE 1920'S KODAK LIBRARY KODASCOPE MODEL B 16MM MOVIE PROJECTOR wWOODEN CASE | eBay With shipping it is about $300 buy it now. They got another on you can bid on, but with current bid price and shipping it is getting close to this one. ($250) If anyone buys it, send in a photo of it on display. If you are tight on $$, keep looking on eBay. Maybe one will come up for $125... then all you will need is space! All photos: eBay - Fair Use It would make a great movie prop too! The guy tells the girl let me show you what is in my casket. He takes her upstairs and shows her an old stag film on the fold-out screen. She slaps him, but succumbs to his desires once she runs her hands over the fine oil finished wood casket...or some such thing. <><><><> Child actress Shirley Temple, holding a rifle, guards camera equipment while the photographers take part as guests of the motion picture stars at a dinner and dance party in Hollywood, Ca., Sept. 19, 1936. Found photograph, post processing and upscaling by Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

As I looked at an 8mm Wolverine scan, it was very fast. The same film done with a Retroscan was exported at 17fps and looked slow. I read 16fps is supposed to be the standard 8mm silent speed. Yet it was very slow at 17fps and had to be sped up 25% in post. And it is not an isolated case. Do you have problems with your scans when the output does not match your idea of what the fps should be? What do you do...eyeball it for speed? Any tricks to settling on the right speed other than eyeballs? <><><><> Weegee Weegee wannabe Selections from Press Photographers Archive DDTJRAC

Here is the same film scanned on these 2 scanners. The Wolverine scanner seems to speed up the scans. Film synopsis: When a model needing money for her sick mom decides she does not want to pose nude, the beatnik photographer wrestles her to the ground to try and convince her to take her clothes off. NSFW Raw scan: Wolverine Reels 2Digital Movie Maker scan The First Time I Did It : Don Juan Amour / Daniel D. Teoli Jr. as archivist : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive Some post work: Retroscan Mark-I scan The First Time I Did It 8MM 2K D. D. Teoli Jr. A. C. : D. D. Teoli Jr. A. C. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Robert, when you say 2-flash; do you have the base exposure plus 2 other exposures? Are you ending up with 3 exposures of +1, 0 and -1 in the HDR mix? If so, do you have control over the under and overexposure, so you can dial in +1.5 and -1.5 instead of +1+ or -1 if need be or is the 2-flash fixed in exposure?

Beautiful setup! It is kinda hard to follow total cost that was invested in parts in your post. Was the camera $3,000 alone? When you change the camera, did the original software still work? I've tried a light pin gate for 16mm. Worked terrible on warped film. That was my experience anyway. After he made all the mods, how did the scan compare to the Lasergraphics? You had sent in a sample scan comparing the Retroscan to the Lasergraphics a long time ago. Was that Retroscan sample output photo made with this scanner after all the updates? Or was it a stock Retroscan output photo?

https://www.videouniversity.com/wp-content/uploads/RetroScanUniversal.jpg Internet photos: Fair Use I've got their old Universal model with 2K camera. The diffusion LED light has worked fine for me Dan. Is the light on the newer models subpar? With 16mm I use it at 80% light at get a f5.6 scan. I found with slight overscan with 8mm I can get by at f5.6 using 55mm extension tube instead of the 75mm tube I was using. Only with the densest underexposed films do I have to go wide open with the lens. Every once in a while, I found having more light would have helped. But 98% of the time it is fine. That Universal seems to be built like a tank. I see old ones on eBay all the time. Hope mine holds up. If it goes, I will be in trouble!

That is a great lens. Too bad Retroscan didn't use a M39 mount instead of a C mount.

Well, cinematographers are usually an anal bunch, just like large format still photographers. And they have to be. The more exacting they are, the better the product usually is. Unless time is of the essence, and they fail to produce in the time allotted. Such as newsreel or war cinematographers that work on the fly and can't afford to be very anal. And when I say anal...I mean analysis. But sometimes you can get stuck in analysis paralysis. So good to be balanced. I'm still trying to catch up with the forum. I haven't read the rest of the replies. I hope to eventually see some images here illustrating some of the text. All this text means nothing to me without illustrations.

I thought a little sprocket area would help with stabilization. No option for pin register. Just Retroscan for now. Normally I'd do what I tell all you to do...TEST! But this is the computer I have and it is hard to test... Computer Fan To Cool 720 : DDTJRAC : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive Anything slightly intensive heats up the computer like a blow dryer. If I don't give it extra air it shuts down. And it takes hours to run one stabilizing test on a small 400-foot 16mm reel. I hope to get a better computer that is more conducive to video work. The Movavi stabilizer has a number of settings, so lots of tests needed.

Didn't know about the June date change. What was the original plan for the date? I found some beautiful magazine spreads of the Queen with all her wardrobe she wore on one trip. I will have to dig out the oversize scanner to scan it. That is always a pain in the ass job. You are lucky you can get all this stuff for cheap shipping in the UK. Very $$ to ship here.

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I don't have any 16mm examples, but is this a good amount of overscan to shoot for stabilizing flat R8mm and 16mm? Would warped film require more overscan?

I just set up the Retroscan for 8mm. I never scanned 8mm with it. I hate 8mm, but I have about 450 R8mm and 120 S8mm to scan. And that number was after I sold off about 400+ R8 / S8 films. They are just too low Q for me. But there is a lot of rare material in the 8mm films that I have, so I will have to make do with the low IQ. I'm using a 50mm Ricoh CTTV C mount lens. Sharpness is acceptable, but it takes a 3-inch (75mm) extension tube to fill the frame for R8mm. The max scanner light output just about covers normally exposed film at f4. As a comparison, the 50mm lens works fine for 16mm scans with a very small extension tube. I can get by with f5.6 most of the time for 16mm. To overscan the R8mm I would use maybe 2-1/2 to 2-3/4 inches of tubes. (I didn't test the overscan really, so guessing.) I was thinking maybe a 75mm or 80mm lens would be better for R8mm with less extension tubes needed...but just guessing. What length lens / extension tube combo do you use for 8mm? Thanks!

I'm wondering if some films are too extreme with decay for stabilization.

Where is the sweet spot? When doing post stabilization, can you get away with one setting for overscan and one setting in post or does everthing vary from film to film?

I had written Xena last week for info on their scanners via Robert's recommendation. Their website was impressive, in that it seemed towards being more open with information as opposed to Lasergraphics that is all closed doors. I asked a few, very, very basic questions. Someone finally wrote back days later. (I guess it is their salesman.) So, I will give them credit for some type of timely reply, versus Lasergraphics, that never answered their email even after years of writing them. But, the big problem with Xena scanners is...you must own a smartphone to buy one! I told the salesman I don't do much by phone. I got a cheap $85 a year Tracfone I keep in my car for emergencies. I never have it on. I told him there is no reliable Zoom here as the internet is bad. I'm all email. He couldn't seem to understand that. Numerous emails went back and forth with him refusing to send me any info via email. Here is his final reply after all the email exchanges... To:you Details Dan: You don’t seem to be serious about this. My time is very valuable, and an email chain could go on for days and take hours to write and read with no results. A 20 minute conversation can accomplish far more and determine immediately if Xena is in your interest or not. If you you’re not willing to spend a few hundred dollars on a smart phone, then you would not be willing to spend the money on a Xena system, even though the cost is very competitive with other scanning systems. I wish you the best on your business…..Bub. Regards, Rennie My original email is below and was very easy to answer with just a few lines. In fact, he wrote me probably 10 times the amount of text in emails refusing to send the info as he could have written by answering my original email request. Hello, I have some questions about your scanner. Does your base model scanner have a warped film gate for 16mm film? I would be using it for archival film scanning of 8mm and 16mm. A lot of the film I deal with is shrunken and warped with VS. Do you plan on making a smaller tabletop model scanner? Are there any sample film scans online to view the image quality? Can you send me a PDF of the operating instructions / operating video to view? Best regards, Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Small Gauge Film Archive Now...if I still had that lady patron that offered to buy my Archive a scanner...do you think I'd buy one from Xena after this treatment? Let me give you another recent example... I was interested in learning about the Phase One 150mp copy stand Camera / Cultural Heritage products. I wrote the company for info and pricing. I told them upfront it is for future use. The emails went back and forth similarly to those with Xena, asking for phone calls. Their last email said they would send the info via email. ...Never got a thing from them and that was months ago. If you have a company and are interested in making money...don't run a shitty company where you can't even do simple business communications like this. <><><><> Woman in alley - Hollywood CA 1973 Selection from Peephole: Peering into the World of 1970's Hollywood and L.A. artist's book. by D.D.Teoli Jr.

Internet Archive Search: Coronation Of Queen Elizabeth II Clips June 2, 1953 Rank If you are looking to practice editing, cutting up DVD's with sound and narration is good. It can be hard blending the sound and the images. Also, good to see how you can do cutting out extra footage to condense a story and still preserve something.