Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

Here is some stuff... (59) filmfabriek pictor pro - YouTube I was thinking of getting a Pictor Pro. I don't have a lot of 8mm film in the Archive. I sold most of it off early on. It is just too low Q for me. But I kept maybe 500- 600 8 and S8 reels. I can buy 8mm for next to nothing...(.50 to $1.50 a reel) A 'pig in a poke' film collector's dream. But I prefer 16mm film. In any case, It would be nice to have a small scanner that produces decent results that is easy to use. I'm short on space, so the scanner could be pulled out as needed.

Thanks! What was wrong with the HDS camera? Is your sample stabilized in post or is it as captured in scanner? It looks pretty good. I'm no expert, but I think Lasergraphics might be a tad better with the stabilization. But there can be no comparison in price between the 2 scanners, so the Pictor looks very good for what it is.

People don't think much of cleaning the photographs before they scan. But RC paper especially attracts a lot of dust. Here is a before and after scan of a RC photo showing how cleaning it affects the scan. Dirty photo Cleaned photo Beside cleaning the originals, the scanner glass has to be clean. But just cleaning it half-ass is not the answer. You have to scan the scanner glass to see how clean it is. Here are 2 scans of the scanner glass. You do it by scanning the open scanner in a pitch-black darkened room. The first scan shows a half-ass clean job, done by say your average jabroni. The second scan show a more thoughtful clean job...after the scanner glass was removed and cleaned. Don't get too anal with the cleaning, sure do a good job. But even if you got an ISO grade clean room...dust and dirt get into the scanner from the originals when you are dealing with archival material. And the scanner itself can make its own dirt from within as it operates. Point is...dirt will find your scanner...just clean the scanner every so often. And you find this out by scanning the scanner itself. Scanner glass after half-ass clean job. Scanner glass after removing the glass and a proper clean job. If you have an assistant, have them blow the glass off with compressed air before you reinstall it. I don't, so I make do with what I got. If you scan 3D materials with your scanner it is better to have a dedicated 3D scanner as well as a photo scanner. Sometimes the scanner glass can get scratched from scanning 3D materials. <>><><> Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival Collection Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Small Gauge Film Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Advertising Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. VHS Video Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Popular Culture Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Audio Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Social Documentary Photography

I've just finished up cutting up about 11 feet of oversize magazines like Life, Look, Saturday Evening Post, Pictorial Review, Modern Priscilla and others. I wanted to collect the advertising and any special articles. I use a large format sheet fed scanner (if I can) and cut off the binding to run the individual pages through the scanner. But it all depends on if the stock is coated and has gloss black ink. If it does not, the pages have to be flat bed scanned as matte black ink or gloss black ink with uncoated paper stock, fouls the scanner rollers. Anyway, as I would cut off the magazine bindings, I would get inserts and coupons that fell out. After a spell it occurred to me to archive them. It the 60's they used magnetic ink to sort the coupons as well as punch card holes. Pretty interesting...well maybe interesting if you are an archivist. Punch card coupons. Magnetic ink coupon You'd also see some die cut coupons. <><><><> Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival Collection Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Small Gauge Film Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Advertising Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. VHS Video Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Popular Culture Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Audio Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Social Documentary Photography

Wow! That stuff is complex as hell! I had no idea you had all these hassles with scanners. They may not be hassles to you, but they would be to me. I thought the scanners were just plug and play more or less. Too bad you can't ever get settled and just produce. It reminds me of the camera fondlers. They would always be looking for the next best camera to come out so they can finally be a star. They could not produce with what they got, they always needed something else. I'm not saying that is you, just saying something I noticed when I was on the photo forums. It is the same with gun people. It wasn't really like that in the old days. I guess the internet helped produce all these 'addictions to progress.' You especially see it with the 'trigger nuts' that keep changing triggers for the carry guns. Never, ever satisfied. Like all they need is the perfect trigger to stay alive. I remember when Lightroom 5 was just coming out, right away they were debating about what Lightroom 6 will be like. They couldn't concentrate on what they got, always looking down the road. Now, I'm not anti-progress. Just saying there is a certain joy in being able to concentrate on doing good work with what you got instead of always having to fool with things and constantly think about the future. And from the discussion here, you had better have a lot of computer smarts to run some of these scanners. You will need to be an IT guy to run these top end scanners.

Do you need all the updates Perry? Reminds me of the forced Windows updates. Have you found the updates worthwhile?

What do software upgrades cost if you don't get a support contract? Once it is set up, is the scanner dependent at all on having internet access?

Thanks Perry!

OK, thanks. I saw some photos of a flat style film viewer. It wasn't a Steenbeck, more compact and did sound. I think it was flat style anyway. It was a long time ago. A stock footage company had it in a video I watched. Yes, it is always fun picking up a mystery reel to see what is on it.

They may promote it to archives, but it does not look like it can keep warped film flat. (edit- Dan Baxter answered question.) Why is the Kinetta so obscure Perry? Did you ever use one?

Robin, you find many things by accident. Google is getting worse all the time with their prejudicial search results. I was was just lucky that day. Sadly, a lot of the scanners out there don't seem to mesh well with warped and degraded films. Lasergraphics's warped film gate is a jewel to behold. I wish other scanning companies would put some time into warped and shrunken film handling.

Update 4.5.24 Since I've first experimented with using microwave radiation to treat mold and mildewed paper, I've had a lot more experience at it. Here is a sample of one magazine I treated with the microwave. The mold smell was pretty bad. Bad enough where you could smell it far away right through a sealed plastic bag. Selection from Pinup Magazine Collection DDTJRAC An important thing to be aware of when doing this is to think about the water fastness of the ink used on the paper. I noticed with old seed catalogs the ink can run and smudge when you microwave it. The paper is microwaved in a plastic bag and produces lots of water moisture. The water condensation in the bag can make the ink run. The best way to handle it is to interleave blotter material or paper towels between the area's that have ink that is most prone to run. This paper treatment does not work very well unless it is bagged. The paper just doesn't heat up evenly enough if not bagged. And when you bag it, the moisture condenses within the bag. Hence the need for blotter material if the ink is not water fast. Another area to be aware of is not to scorch the paper. You have to work in small, timed treatments, inspect it and reverse for another treatment. Once you do a few samples you will learn how long is too much. After you give a front and back treatment, you take it out and let the paper recover (cool down / dry up) then inspect. You can also give it more treatments on another day after you judge how the treatments have done. Some of the material I have treated smells completely cured of mold and mildew...and they were heavily infected and smelly. But it takes time.

Film scanning is a somewhat blind area to work in, unless you can get 'hands on' experience. I was talking to an old gal down the street, complaining about having to buy things on Amazon just 'to look at them.' In the old days you could go and see...but not anymore. It is worse with cine' scanners since they are so $$. The $$ is the issue, Dan. So, in the meantime, I try to learn as much as I can. Got to get back to work. I had high hopes of getting caught up, but just too much 'stuff' here.

It is no problem if you don't want to reply, David. But this is a discussion forum, and questions or discussion should stand on their own and not be based on prejudice about the person. Everyone can't pull out $70K or $125K of their pocket and buy a scanner on demand. David, when I do a Google image search for you, I see you have a pitiful online representation. Sure, it does not say everything about it...but it says a lot. david sekanina - Google Search Google image search these David... Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival Collection Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Small Gauge Film Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Advertising Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. VHS Video Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Popular Culture Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Audio Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Social Documentary Photography ...and don't forget to ad Jr. to my name, David. My work is an open book. Although the Google searches only show a fraction of what it really is. 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Provocative thread titles? As I said before, my title is a straightforward question. It is not clickbait; it is not provocative...it is a factual question, Perry based on fact. The sound is bad and the scanner used was a LG...what is the problem? Now when you talk about the random guy with a garage full of Coronet films and projector...OK, I'm guilty as charged! Do you know why it takes me so long to get back to threads on the forums Perry? I'm busy with other things. I'd like to do better, but I can't. Post counts mean nothing to me, Perry. Whatever it is...is what it is. I'd see on the forums where people celebrate their 10,000th post. Humans seem predisposed to liking round numbers. It is not the number of posts...it is the quality of the posts that counts. I'd have to buy a scanner outright Perry. I'm not interested at all in scanning other people's films to pay for a scanner. I'm interested in scanning my own films, which total somewhere between 3 and 4 million feet...that is it. Although I did mention if I was rich, I'd have extra scanner for indie filmmakers to use to scan their films for free. (If it was not going to be a big hassle.) I do not have the financial wherewith all to buy a scanner on time as my income varies greatly. Everyone does not buy a scanner to make money with it, Perry. I don't make a penny from any of the archival work I do or the photography I produce. I do it because it interests me and to donate and preserve the material for the historical record. My problem was I jumped into film preservation without a thought for the digitization cost. Every other area I work in is more or less affordable...except cine' film scanning. Anyway, I'm just trying to learn about it all, along with participating in the forum. As Dan Baxter mentioned, research can be tough if all you go by are Google searches. It seems many members here just read and don't contribute. I can't contribute in all areas, so I contribute where I can and ask questions as they pop up, Perry. I do like to get some extra bang for the buck with my posts, so I try to share some archival material or my social documentary photography with posts. Why not? It may be of interest to others.

It is not clickbait Perry. Internet Archive said a Lasergraphics Scanstation was used to digitize it and the sound is bad. Nothing clickbaitish about it. I was wondering if there is a problem with the scanner, the operator or what.

Thanks Frank. Good to see you are still around!

The Lasergraphics people have come a long way from their beginnings. Very impressive design. Since you are in business, do scan companies generally run at high speeds that produce decent results and charge more for slow scans? Does the slow speed benefit sound only or does it affect the image quality, Perry?

Don't know. If it was a bad print, wouldn't it be on all the prints, Perry? If I can find that faded print, it may be worth buying it just to see a 2nd sample of the sound.

That is terrible. Is FF ever going to fix it, Tyler? I understand you like AEO-Lite. As a broke archivist I like it too. But when you got a sound scanner, it should perform as advertised. OK, it does not have to be top shelf, but nothing obvious for the average Joe, Jane or zir to complain about.

So, if you have an important film, do you scan it slower with the Lasergraphics to get the best scan you can, Perry?

I was going to buy another copy of the film, but it was faded and passed on it. It would be interesting to see how sound varies with different prints.

What is the problem with the film that would cause this distortion?

Update: 3.30.24 Ridata 25gb Blu-ray is still good after 9 months of sun. Test will conclude in 3 months. Pretty impressive performance from Ridata. It is the only Blu-ray disc to last this long other than M-Disc, Japan Verbatim and Taiwan Verbatim BD-R's.

https://www.filmictech.com/ Reminds me of a Kinetta. (Which I could find very little about.) Have you heard anything about the Filmic? Looks like it is for pristine film and not the usual stuff I get. <><><><> Selection (Candid) from De Wallen: Amsterdam's Red Light District artist's book 2014 by D.D.Teoli Jr.