
Duncan Brown
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How to shoot extreme close ups
Duncan Brown replied to kris limbach's topic in Lenses & Lens Accessories
I'll toss in a few random thoughts here. -- A dedicated macro lens has other advantages - they are usually very flat field, have little or no CA at the edges, etc. If you can afford it (and mount-adapted stills macro lenses are a great way to afford it) that's a really good way to go. -- Unless you spend a lot of money on a diopter - a really really good expensive diopter - just don't even bother with diopters. Might as well shoot through a plastic magnifying glass as use one of the inexpensive diopter sets. -- Air (distance) is much cheaper than a diopter, and doesn't introduce any optical elements that need to be high quality. Extension tubes are a really quick way to move the focus point closer (at the obvious expense of the infinity end of things.) RAF Cameras makes a series of very affordable PL-PL macro extenders. I even got them to make the shortest one physically possible in PL, because their normal ones brought the focus range basically on top of the lenses I was using, and I needed a bit more distance between camera and subject. -
A couple of new ones. An ACL 1 parts catalog from 1970, missing the viewfinder and motor sections 😞 http://backglass.org/duncan/eclair/eclair_acli_spare_parts_catalogue_197009.pdf Who knew Eclair offered a single-system modification of the ACL?! http://backglass.org/duncan/eclair/eclair_acl_single_system.pdf ... and the smaller crummier versions of those if speed or file size is an issue for you: http://backglass.org/duncan/eclair/eclair_acli_spare_parts_catalogue_197009_100.pdf http://backglass.org/duncan/eclair/eclair_acl_single_system_100.pdf Duncan
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Yes, there is a known number of rotations of the input rubber coupling to one frame cycle at the pawl and shutter. (I forget off the top of my head. Maybe 3:1?) So, as long as your rubber coupling isn't old and slipping, you'd just have your animation motor spin one shutter cycle worth per press of the button, and as long as you assembled the motor to the camera when the shutter was closed, then it would work perfectly from there. The reason for the capping shutter is that the Arri "shutter" is just the mirror moving and blocking the direct path from lens to film. The film is never blocked by a traditional close-by light-tight shutter. This works just fine at speed, not so fine with the camera sitting around with bright lights coming through the lens for seconds or minutes between frames exposed. Sure there's matte black paint everywhere inside the cavity, but low levels of light can still get to the film. (The same reason you need port caps in any un-lensed holes in the turret!) Duncan
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I'm not trying to be the price police but having looked at a lot of NPR auctions over the last few years, I'm not sure I've ever seen one that high. It's no doubt a very nicely equipped, guaranteed running S16 NPR and worth much more than your average "no way to test it" N16 NPR, but that price is going to just seem high by comparison. I wonder if you'd do better selling the lenses separately? That way the camera price would look more in the right realm, and a lot of people either already have their own lenses, or are willing to go cheap on the lenses to start and then spend the big bucks later. Just an idea. Duncan
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Very impressive! Duncan
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Yes it would need the capability for a capping shutter - is the connection for that on the motor? I don't see it on the control box (assuming that the connector on the control box is for a trigger switch for single frame or to turn on the rig when in continuous mode,) Is the 1/4 and 1/2 setting on the motor a gearbox shifter? This all looks very similar (though cruder) to the Arri US animation/timelapse motor, which I believe was also made in NY. I wonder if this one led to that one through some path? Duncan
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That's a lotta glass.... Duncan
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Oh, OK cool. I didn't realize you needed to move it that far! So if anyone ever needs to mount a (nearly nonexistent) spare ACL finder on an NPR, it sounds like a big spacer design will do the trick 🙂 Duncan
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I'm confused. You've taken the screw collar off of the Kinoptic finder? How does it secure on to this adapter? Duncan
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Let's discuss this amazing Angenieux VF on the NPR. Everyone knows that's the one you really want. And let's discuss the S16-converted NPR. Everyone knows that's the one you really want. But wait - when you get everything you want all at once, you can't see the whole S16 frame in the Angie VF. It's zoomed in too much. Or am I doing something wrong? Anyone else with both of those things seeing this? Duncan
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I meant to post here when I discovered a few months ago: you can attach a CP-16 VF to an NPR just fine. The CP VF has two slots in it so you can mount it in two orientations on the NPR with its one tab. BUT the other way around doesn't work! The Kinoptik VF, with only one slot, will not mount on a CP camera, which has two tabs. Duncan
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I was answering that guy's questions about his motor on the FB Arri group, and then when he put it on ebay and it didn't sell I said I might be interested in it for a lower price, just to investigate...and so he relisted it on ebay with an even HIGHER starting bid and it didn't sell and when he relisted it again for that same higher opening bid I asked him about it on FB and then he deleted the whole thread. So maybe beware of that seller? I know the motor is nearly identical to a motor I have that works with the German single-frame/animation controller (see footnote). The way that thing is built, there's no way to get power to a normal motor from the camera connection,, so this special motor has its own power connection coming in the back side. This ebay seller's motor was different, in that it had also a power connector (like a fake end of a power cord) coming out the font side, which would pass its power through to the camera if you plug the motor directly into the camera and not through the animation controller. Why would you do that?! Why not just use a normal motor? I don't know. That's what I hoped to investigate if I could buy the pile of unknown parts for a more reasonable price. We'll see if he ever gets a clue. (footnote) The Arri US single frame/animation controller is a whole different ball of wax. It's a control box and a motor that work together as a unit and plug into a 115VAC wall outlet. It's way bigger and more complicated, with lots of onboard switches, whereas the German version is quite compact and gets all of its control inputs via connectors. They both can control a capping shutter and a strobe, but the US unit can directly do tricks like forward/reverse, push to take a picture, push again to advance frames, etc. (Probably possible with the German unit and some external logic; I haven't had a chance to play with it yet.) Someday when I get more time I'll take lots of pictures and write up lots of descriptions about all this... like I tend to do with this stuff. If anyone has instructions/wiring diagrams for the German unit, let me know! But it looks pretty straightforwrd to figure out. Duncan
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That other flicker thread: Duncan