Keneu Luca Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Ektachrome 16mm copyright on the can is 2002 No expiration date. Stored in a room approx 40 -60 degrees all this time. What do ya think? Yes, Iwill test it first, but what do ya think? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keneu Luca Posted April 20, 2006 Author Share Posted April 20, 2006 Lil' bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Pytlak RIP Posted April 20, 2006 Premium Member Share Posted April 20, 2006 Ektachrome16mm copyright on the can is 2002 No expiration date. Stored in a room approx 40 -60 degrees all this time. What do ya think? Yes, Iwill test it first, but what do ya think? Thank you Which EKTACHROME film? Four year old film stored at cool temperature will likely be useable, but may show some loss of D-Max ("milky" blacks) and speed, along with some increased graininess. You are correct, a test would be a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canney Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Test it definetlly. I have found old ektacrhome to have runny color, usually in the reds for me and sometimes grainny. I usually filter it out throught telecine whitebalancing. But yeah test a roll for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keneu Luca Posted April 22, 2006 Author Share Posted April 22, 2006 (edited) The stock is 7239. I've never heard of such a thing, but if you tell the lab that the film is 4 years old, is there anything they can do different that might increase the chances of the film being developed......ummmm...normally? I know, probably not. The question seems really stupid now that I've just typed it. But there are no such things as stupid questions, just stupid people. Edited April 22, 2006 by Keneu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Pytlak RIP Posted April 24, 2006 Premium Member Share Posted April 24, 2006 In general, avoid underexposing or push-processing films that may be suffering the effects of old age. Although labs can make chemical adjustments to a process to reduce fog levels (antifoggants, increased bromide), these additions would make the process non-standard, and would not likely be used to compensate for a few rolls of a customer's over-aged film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canney Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 Alright I have been doing some various aged film. From new to 25+ years old. I did some refriged 3 years beyond the date old ektachrome and it came very runny in the reds. My suggestion is to find some newer stock seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keneu Luca Posted June 12, 2006 Author Share Posted June 12, 2006 (edited) I finally tested the film. Perfect. The film was absolutely flawless. I realize I got lucky. But despite my luck, I probably wont take chances anymore. I just couldnt help it - I saw a good deal and jumed on it. Some of you may have seen the auctions on ebay - this guy has been unloading cases of 7239. I now wish I bid on all of them. There were at least 3 separate auctions for cases of several 400' rolls. But yeah...I got lucky. Edited June 12, 2006 by Keneu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted June 12, 2006 Premium Member Share Posted June 12, 2006 I'm surprised you could still find a lab that was processing VNF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Pytlak RIP Posted June 12, 2006 Premium Member Share Posted June 12, 2006 I'm surprised you could still find a lab that was processing VNF. A few labs still are running VNF-1, and Kodak still stocks the chemistry. But yes, most are in the process of moving to E-6 as remaining stocks of the VNF films are depleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keneu Luca Posted June 12, 2006 Author Share Posted June 12, 2006 A1 Film Lab in New York. http://www.a1filmlab.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Rotberg Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 A few labs still are running VNF-1, and Kodak still stocks the chemistry. But yes, most are in the process of moving to E-6 as remaining stocks of the VNF films are depleted. Can you process that Ektochrome with E-6. That is cross processing right and gives a totally different look than using VNF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Pytlak RIP Posted July 6, 2006 Premium Member Share Posted July 6, 2006 Can you process that Ektochrome with E-6. That is cross processing right and gives a totally different look than using VNF? The E-6 and VNF-1 processes are similar, and will both produce an image with a modern color reversal film, but "cross processing" will likely result in unpredictable differences in color or tone scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Rotberg Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 The E-6 and VNF-1 processes are similar, and will both produce an image with a modern color reversal film, but "cross processing" will likely result in unpredictable differences in color or tone scale. Great. VNF is being phased out along with this stock correct? But E-6 is still carried by all processors who process color reversal correct? thanks for your help, jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olex Kalynychenko Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 The stock is 7239. I've never heard of such a thing, but if you tell the lab that the film is 4 years old, is there anything they can do different that might increase the chances of the film being developed......ummmm...normally? I know, probably not. The question seems really stupid now that I've just typed it. But there are no such things as stupid questions, just stupid people. Not worry too much. I don't know, how many films you have. If you have a few 400 ft rolls with similar number of emulsion, this can be use. You need take short end of your film ( 1..2 m ), go to processing lab and order test of film ( sensitometric test). The lab tell you real speed of film and other characteristics of film. You will know real date of manufacturing of film from Dx code, because, DX code will show you real date of film manufacturing. You can make simple test too. You need shoot a few test shots of Kodak color scale and Kodak grey scale with difference aperture. ( set speed of film on exposure meter 160 ASA, 100 ASA, 80ASA, 64 ASA. 50 ASA, 40 ASA, 32ASA, 20 ASA). After processing, you need choose better test shots. And you will know, what final speed have your film and what speed need use for shooting. I don't know, but, from my experience with color negative and color reversal films, the 3 years old film lost near 50 % of speed. I will glad to know opinion of other filmmakers about use of old stock of film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keneu Luca Posted July 7, 2006 Author Share Posted July 7, 2006 (edited) Not worry too much.I don't know, how many films you have. If you have a few 400 ft rolls with similar number of emulsion, this can be use. You need take short end of your film ( 1..2 m ), go to processing lab and order test of film ( sensitometric test). The lab tell you real speed of film and other characteristics of film. You will know real date of manufacturing of film from Dx code, because, DX code will show you real date of film manufacturing. You can make simple test too. You need shoot a few test shots of Kodak color scale and Kodak grey scale with difference aperture. ( set speed of film on exposure meter 160 ASA, 100 ASA, 80ASA, 64 ASA. 50 ASA, 40 ASA, 32ASA, 20 ASA). After processing, you need choose better test shots. And you will know, what final speed have your film and what speed need use for shooting. I don't know, but, from my experience with color negative and color reversal films, the 3 years old film lost near 50 % of speed. I will glad to know opinion of other filmmakers about use of old stock of film. Thanks Olex. But I did shoot the film already; you must have missed my update. The footage came out beautiful. Edited July 7, 2006 by Keneu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Pytlak RIP Posted July 7, 2006 Premium Member Share Posted July 7, 2006 Great. VNF is being phased out along with this stock correct? But E-6 is still carried by all processors who process color reversal correct? thanks for your help, jonathan You need to check with your lab to verify which process they are using. VNF-1 processing is still available at some labs, others have converted to E-6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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