SKIP bleach + PUSH process = ?

[Rajavel Olhiveeran]

hi all

i had earlier skip bleach processed directly on the negative for a small flash-back sequence. it worked interestingly. though the exterior shots were little blown out more than i expected....

 

how will a negative react if i am gonna under expose by two stops and combine the SKIP bleach process with the 2 stops PUSH process???

 

normally push process saturate the colors right? how do we achieve the High contrast + high color saturation chris doyle's films!!

thanks cheers!!

[David Mullen ASC]

You wouldn't skip bleach, that's for sure -- that lowers saturation. You're leaving black silver in all the color layers.

 

Doyle basically pushed-processed a 250T stock for that saturated contasty look, plus shot saturated subjects in colored lighting. At least that's how he shot "Fallen Angels". He didn't skip-bleach. And it's debatable whether push-processing really improves saturation as opposed to simply getting a denser negative and printing it down.

 

In other words, if you exposed normally and pushed one stop and thus had a negative that was one-stop overexposed, then printed that down, would it look any more saturated than a negative that was overexposed one-stop, processed normally, and printed down? Is it the pushing or the extra negative density that is improving the color saturation in the print?

 

Cross-processing an E6 reversal stock like 5285 would get you super high contrast, high saturation.

[Rajavel Olhiveeran]

You wouldn't skip bleach, that's for sure -- that lowers saturation. You're leaving black silver in all the color layers.

 

Doyle basically pushed-processed a 250T stock for that saturated contasty look, plus shot saturated subjects in colored lighting. At least that's how he shot "Fallen Angels". He didn't skip-bleach. And it's debatable whether push-processing really improves saturation as opposed to simply getting a denser negative and printing it down.

 

In other words, if you exposed normally and pushed one stop and thus had a negative that was one-stop overexposed, then printed that down, would it look any more saturated than a negative that was overexposed one-stop, processed normally, and printed down? Is it the pushing or the extra negative density that is improving the color saturation in the print?

 

Cross-processing an E6 reversal stock like 5285 would get you super high contrast, high saturation.

 

THANKS MR.DAVID

[Michael Nash]

For more info:

 

http://www.cameraguild.com/technology/testing_limits.htm

[Jon Kukla]

And remember that if you DO ever use skip bleach, you need to underexpose the film by about a stop (and beef up your fill light).