Premium Member Brad Grimmett Posted December 19, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted December 19, 2007 That's different, we're trying to defeat Communist China by throwing shove fulls of US dollars at the until they become bonified capitolists Not true at all. They make cheap crap, and Americans want cheap crap (with lead in it). It's just huge corporations trying to make more money, and they're doing it. Of course, they're probably going to bring the US down in the process....but hey, that's business right! Learn Chinese now, while it's still early... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Not true at all. They make cheap crap, and Americans want cheap crap (with lead in it). It's just huge corporations trying to make more money, and they're doing it. Of course, they're probably going to bring the US down in the process....but hey, that's business right!Learn Chinese now, while it's still early... I hear the Chinese steady-cam school has 500,000 students :( R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Marc Alucard Posted December 20, 2007 Author Premium Member Share Posted December 20, 2007 Wal-Mart doesn't sell steady-cam operators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Brad Grimmett Posted December 20, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted December 20, 2007 Wal-Mart doesn't sell steady-cam operators. Thankfully! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Auner aac Posted December 20, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted December 20, 2007 14MPG? Jeez, what do you guys do? Spend half your time coasting? I couldn't get 14MPG parked in the driveway with the key off. Hal (Ford E250 Super Cargo Van w/5.4L Triton V8) Smith Now what do you say to that then: Opel Vectra Caravan, built in Germany as well. 120 metric HP, 1.9 CDTI, 34 MPG! And that doing at least 85 mph on the Austrian Autobahn! Cheers, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Marc Alucard Posted December 20, 2007 Author Premium Member Share Posted December 20, 2007 Now what do you say to that then: Opel Vectra Caravan, built in Germany as well. 120 metric HP, 1.9 CDTI, 34 MPG! And that doing at least 85 mph on the Austrian Autobahn! Cheers, Dave We haven't been able to even get a VW Diesel for the last two model years in the US. VW is promising mid year 2008. I waiting for the Tata Indica from India to get here. They are priced less than the cost of repair when some drunk backed into the rear of my parked Porsche two weeks ago. We are just starting to get the Smart FourTwo here. Good TDI cars from Europe that have any performance, and good fuel economy are a pipe dream in the US. Diesel fuel is priced higher than premium gasoline in Las Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Steven Beverly Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Wal-Mart doesn't sell steady-cam operators. If they did they'd be made in China wear asbestos underwear and eat lead paint chips.....you know pretty much exactly the same thing as American steadicam operators. Al-Gore-ithm? :unsure: I think I failed that in high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Steven Beverly Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 I drive a gas guzzling V8 made by VW. R, OK you can officially apply for American citizenship, just put down on the application that it was a Ford not a VW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Steven Beverly Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 14MPG? Jeez, what do you guys do? Spend half your time coasting? I couldn't get 14MPG parked in the driveway with the key off. Hal (Ford E250 Super Cargo Van w/5.4L Triton V8) Smith Now HERE is an example of a GREAT American! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Steven Beverly Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Now what do you say to that then: Opel Vectra Caravan, built in Germany as well. 120 metric HP, 1.9 CDTI, 34 MPG! And that doing at least 85 mph on the Austrian Autobahn! Cheers, Dave And then it blew up! :lol: (juz kidding) <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Steven Beverly Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Not true at all. They make cheap crap, and Americans want cheap crap (with lead in it). YES WE DO!!! God Bless America! Learn Chinese now, while it's still early... No way, I can barely speak English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Auner aac Posted December 20, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted December 20, 2007 (edited) And then it blew up! :lol: (juz kidding) <_< You remember the picture I posted? Look here Now what's gonna blow up next? BTW did you know that standard gasoline here is 91 octane? Super is 95, Super+ 98, there even is a 100 octane fuel... Cheers, Dave Edited December 20, 2007 by David Auner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Marc Alucard Posted December 20, 2007 Author Premium Member Share Posted December 20, 2007 You remember the picture I posted? Look hereNow what's gonna blow up next? BTW did you know that standard gasoline here is 91 octane? Super is 95, Super+ 98, there even is a 100 octane fuel... Cheers, Dave Hello Dave, In the United States, octane is an average of 2 ratings, research octane (RON) and motor octane (MON). If you look at any gas pump in the United States, you will see a yellow sticker that says "octane by R + M / 2" That is the basic formula for an average. These 2 numbers mean different things. Research Octane number is always higher than Motor Octane number. In Europe, they only report the RON. A lot of people think that in Europe, the octane is higher. Well, that is not exactly true. You see, in Europe, you might find 96 octane at a local gas station. when the highest sold here is 91 in Las Vegas. Well, that 96 is equivalent to 92 here in the States. To make it worse most states require 10% of the gas to be ethanol. (Oxygenated Fuel) All I know is I need to buy 100 octane racing fuel so my 1962 Triumph TR6SS bike won't knock going up hills or have a gummed up caburator if it sits more than a few days. Cheers, Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Auner aac Posted December 20, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted December 20, 2007 Hi Marc, thanks for the heads-up! I never noticed that sticker. IIRC when I was in the States the last time (around 2000) 91 octane was the highest grade and 75 (?) was the lowest? I was around rural MI, Lower Peninsula. Would that seem right? Or is my recollection off? Cheers, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Anthony Vale Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Our current PM, Stephen Harper, is a genius of the highest calibre. If he wants to adopt me I'll go, if he wants me to live in a crawl space under the stairs I'll do it. I love you Stephen Harper. :rolleyes: Just don't get youself convicted of a capital offense outside of Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Marc Alucard Posted December 20, 2007 Author Premium Member Share Posted December 20, 2007 Hi Marc, thanks for the heads-up! I never noticed that sticker. IIRC when I was in the States the last time (around 2000) 91 octane was the highest grade and 75 (?) was the lowest? I was around rural MI, Lower Peninsula. Would that seem right? Or is my recollection off? Cheers, Dave 87 Octane is the lowest I have seen posted on the pump here. Without a way to test you pretty much have to take their word for it. I only use 91 Octane in my modern cars and truck because that is what the manufacturer specs. The ' 33 Ford Hot Rod with the flat head and twin carbs only gets the 100 octane racing fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Sprung Posted December 20, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted December 20, 2007 Hi Marc, thanks for the heads-up! I never noticed that sticker. IIRC when I was in the States the last time (around 2000) 91 octane was the highest grade and 75 (?) was the lowest? I was around rural MI, Lower Peninsula. Would that seem right? Or is my recollection off? Cheers, Dave The three grades sold here in LA are 87, 89, and 91. -- J.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Sprung Posted December 20, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted December 20, 2007 14MPG? Jeez, what do you guys do? Spend half your time coasting? I couldn't get 14MPG parked in the driveway with the key off. Hal (Ford E250 Super Cargo Van w/5.4L Triton V8) Smith I once barely broke into double digits on the truck, but it's usually around 8 MPG -- 1985 F-350, 460 V-8 (7.5 liters for the metric folks). It's a long bed dually with a lumber rack and 4.10 rear end. Gear-bound at about 60 - 65 MPH. But when I don't need that load capacity, it's a 1995 Saturn that routinely gets 28 - 30 MPG in stop and go freeway traffic. -- J.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Auner aac Posted December 21, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted December 21, 2007 The three grades sold here in LA are 87, 89, and 91. Ok, but that might be due to being around an urban area rather than a rural one, maybe? But my memory might be off. Might as well have been the low 80s, I am sure it wasn't 87. Cheers, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Brad Grimmett Posted December 21, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted December 21, 2007 The lowest I've ever seen in any state in the US is 87. Many states are 93, 91, 87. Some states, like CA, are 91, 89, 87. I haven't been in every state, but I've been in most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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