Mendritzki Andreas Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 (edited) Hi Forum I'm in Pre-prod for a short B&W S16 film and my DP and I are choosing our stock. We're shooting in a big church and budget doesn't allow for anything more than 2k HMI's. So though I'd like to shoot with 7231 we need more speed. I really want good contrast without too too much grain (not sure that we can get what I want out of the 7222). I also love a slightly silvery look (Robby Muller's work on Kings of the Road is the ideal - anyone know what stock they used?) We've kicked around the idea of using 7266. I've heard that processing it as a negative will a) give me a bit of that silvery look and B) be slightly more forgiving than the reversal normally is. Has anyone used this process? Any advice/insight would be much appreciated. Andreas Edited January 11, 2008 by Mendritzki Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted January 11, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted January 11, 2008 I've never heard that cross-processing b&w reversal makes it less contrasty (or less grainy.) I'd test Plus-X neg pushed one stop to see if that's better than Double-X neg. Test cross-processing b&w reversal, though if this is for scanning / telecine only, you don't necessarily have to convert it into a negative. Also test shooting on color negative and removing the color in post if this is for scanning / telecine only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendritzki Andreas Posted January 11, 2008 Author Share Posted January 11, 2008 Thanks David What this person was saying was that processing the reversal as neg gave it a bit more latitude (but ultimately contrast is, I guess, directly related to latitude. . .) And yes, it is going the telecine route, so we have lots of options. I guess just test, test, test. I need a money tree. Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Anthony Vale Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Thanks David What this person was saying was that processing the reversal as neg gave it a bit more latitude (but ultimately contrast is, I guess, directly related to latitude. . .) Old data sheets for B?W reversal films say that processing it as a neg gives you a one stop speed loss and increased graininess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendritzki Andreas Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 Old data sheets for B?W reversal films say that processing it as a neg gives you a one stop speed loss and increased graininess. Hi all, I got my tests back and I'd say Leo is right. The cross-processed tri-x was less contrasty, had more grain, and looked about 1 stop under... looked not unlike 7222 in some ways. Certainly it didn't retain the crispness of the tri-x cheers Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Burke Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Hi all, I got my tests back and I'd say Leo is right. The cross-processed tri-x was less contrasty, had more grain, and looked about 1 stop under... looked not unlike 7222 in some ways. Certainly it didn't retain the crispness of the tri-x cheers Andreas Any results from other tests? Which route did you follow? I am thinking about shooting on the 7266 and 65 for a Super 16 feature and am curious what other peoples experience is. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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