Phil Beastall Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 I was wondering if anyone knew how I could superimpose an image of someone into someone's eye. I want to add a slight fish eye look to it but want it to remain 100% opaque and clear, but look like a reflection. Is this possible in after effects?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Teulon Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Do you want a clear image or a would a silhouette suffice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Beastall Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 Ideally it would be a clear image. So the viewer can see what is being reflected, as the shot is an ECU of someone's eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Chris Keth Posted February 6, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted February 6, 2008 Is there any reason you can't do this practically on set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Steven Beverly Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Yeah, you could possibly do a variant on Pepper's Ghost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bowerbank Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 It could probably easily be done in camera. Get the actor and his/her eye on a set with black everywhere. Place one light source to the right to light the eye, place the actor who's reflection you want to the left and be sure he/she's well lit (placing his/her light behind the "eye actor", unless you want another twinkle to show up in the eye). Get some duvetyne or some black material to hide the camera and operator from the eye's reflection and there you go. Easier said than done, but it can be done, and it'll look much more natural than some After Effects composite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Chris Keth Posted February 7, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted February 7, 2008 It could probably easily be done in camera. Get the actor and his/her eye on a set with black everywhere. Place one light source to the right to light the eye, place the actor who's reflection you want to the left and be sure he/she's well lit (placing his/her light behind the "eye actor", unless you want another twinkle to show up in the eye). Get some duvetyne or some black material to hide the camera and operator from the eye's reflection and there you go. Easier said than done, but it can be done, and it'll look much more natural than some After Effects composite. That's pretty much it. I will add that the person in the reflection will have to be lit pretty hot to show up how you want. It will probably surprise you how much light i will take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Beastall Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 Some great ideas there, but lets say we can't do that and I want to do it entirely in post. I have the two shots ready to go - the eye and the figure to put into the eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Auner aac Posted February 7, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted February 7, 2008 Some great ideas there, but lets say we can't do that and I want to do it entirely in post. I have the two shots ready to go - the eye and the figure to put into the eye. Hi Phil, you can do that in post if it's not possible in camera. Won't look as natural though, unless you put some real effort into it. Use a combination of distortion filters and masks, maybe tweak the colours a bit too. Either use After Effects or Combustion or whatever app suits you most. Cheers, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Beastall Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 I haven't really use masks all that much, I'm just getting into After Effects etc, so was wondering if it would be ok to get a guide through...Nothing overly specific but just a rough idea...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Beastall Posted February 8, 2008 Author Share Posted February 8, 2008 I was pointed in the direction of motion and using motion tracked masks I'm going to overly the reflection onto the eye. Thanks for all your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Auner aac Posted February 8, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted February 8, 2008 Is there any subject or camera motion in the shot? If so, you'd have a hard time tracking the whole thing. Better keep the camera locked down and the eye static. Cheers, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Giambrone Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 I saw a tutorial about "projecting" an image onto another image in After Effects. Can't remember the link, but maybe searching gobos will help your search (also included in their tutorial). Projecting your reflection onto an eye shaped 3d eye shape might be the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Rich Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I'd suggest checking out creativecow.com and going through a few of their AE tutorials. The previous posts have already cued you in on what sorts of techniques you might need: masking, distortion, projecting, etc. Creative Cow has a huge amount of written and video tutorials, many of which are on AE. Just browse for the techniques you want and check it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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