Stuart Brereton Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I've just picked up seasons 4 and 5 on DVD. This is a great show, one of the best bits of TV I've ever seen. BUT, the framing is driving me crazy. most of the time it's ok, but all too frequently there are shots with absolutely no headroom, in fact shots where top of frame is just above the eyebrows. I'm not just talking about CUs, but Mid shots as well, and on a few occasions, even wide shots! Anyone else noticed, or is it just me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brereton Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 Actually, scratch this question. It seems to be a problem with Apple DVD player, as the VLC player show the shots with plenty of head room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Teulon Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) It's a regular problem. Nothing beats VLC. On the topic, I absolutely LOVED the wire. I watched all the series in record time.....I can't really think of a tv drama to better this. Such a shame that in the UK we don't have a channel that will take the risks that HBO takes in the US.....and shoot 2perf 35mm! ;) Edited February 17, 2009 by Serge Teulon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brereton Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 It's 35mm? Are you sure? Looks more like 16mm to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted February 17, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted February 17, 2009 iirc all of the mentioning I've heard of The Wire has been Super-16mm. I can't think of any shows working on 2-Perf 35mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brereton Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 As of season 5 the show still had an AR of 4:3, so it couldn't have been 2 perf 35mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Teulon Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 You could well be right about the wire being on s16mm....I did however see a behind the scenes photo somewhere and it had a 435 in there. Additionally, I'm under the impression that most dramas from HBO are shot 2-3perf 35mm.....or at least until about a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted February 18, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted February 18, 2009 Actually Serge, you may well be right. I think I'm getting "The Wire" confused with "The Shield" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Williamson Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Seasons 1 -3 of "The Wire" are some kind of 4 perf 35mm, don't know whether it's Academy or Super. Seasons 4 & 5 are 3 perf 35mm but framed for 1.33 aspect ratio, presumably just to save some money on stock costs. Pretty sure it was a Panavision camera package throughout. There's an article online somewhere that discusses this, if I recall correctly, the primary reasons for maintaining the 1.33 AR was that it feels more like real life and less like a movie according to David Simon. Actually, I just found the article here's a link. I'm halfway through season 4 (so no spoilers please), but I can definitely see a difference in resolution between the newer episodes and the first three seasons. It's definitely an amazing show, I got the complete "Wire" series and the first season of "Mad Men" for Christmas and I'm loving both of them, it seems like the high end TV shows keep getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brereton Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 As DP Dave Insley explains in that article, they're cropping the 3 perf frame to 4:3, which makes it considerably smaller than Academy. This is probably what gives it that almost 16mm look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Teulon Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I downloaded the series.....it's interesting that, even though they cropped it 1.33, they still shot it on 35. To all UK'ers....imagine that here!!! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Brad Grimmett Posted February 19, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted February 19, 2009 The Wire is by far my favorite TV show ever. I think it's the series that inspired all those other series to have longer story arcs, which I love. Additionally, I'm under the impression that most dramas from HBO are shot 2-3perf 35mm.....or at least until about a year ago. 3 perf yes, but I haven't ever heard of an HBO show shooting 2 perf. Of course, I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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