Ryan Rigley Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 hey guys and gals, I'm a DP on my school film, and i have to light an exterior bright day with out using any HMI's, should i just use the sunlight and bounce it for fills? any cool advice for me? also, there is a polar opposite scene that needs to be lit like a film noir. It's a night scene in an alleyway with lights on the walls. Personally i want it to be pitch black without any light on the walls except for the very bright cones of light coming from the wall lights. any suggestions on either would be much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted March 4, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted March 4, 2009 If it's pitch black without any light on the walls, how are you going to know that it's an alley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Rigley Posted March 4, 2009 Author Share Posted March 4, 2009 as long as the brick is lit on the wall, you will be able to tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted March 4, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted March 4, 2009 as long as the brick is lit on the wall, you will be able to tell Then it's not pitch-black... Most people would use a tungsten PARCAN, like a spot or narrow-spot one, for a hot downlight on a building. Or you could use a Leko / Source-4 ellipsoidal lamp. PARCAN's are pretty cheap and only 1K, except for the 1.2K "firestarter" very-narrow-spot ones. More energy efficient than using, let's say, 2K Baby Juniors with snoots to create the spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted March 4, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted March 4, 2009 Other thing you can do is try stringing up some sockets and putting a few bulbs in 'em, which look like they'd belong over back doors etc. Can help give some definition then a soft slightly under-exposed source illuminating characters and a little eye light if called for. Just an idea which can be gotten from the hardware store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS Williams Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 If you don't see the ground of the hallway you might be able to lay some Kino singles down to get a teensy bit of exposure on the walls. You said you wanted to see the brick, that might bring some texture. Or maybe you could rig the practicals with real bright 200 watt or 300 watt photofloods or use CFLs for more lumans output Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS Williams Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Though not energy efficient as Mr. Mullen pointed out, a 1k or 2k fresnel or open faced light (like an arrilite or lowel DP light) with a snoot would give you a very narrow concentrated downlight on the walls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Shani Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 i agree with all the above as for the daylight scene use reflectors, foam-core if you can use 12*12 frame and you can add to it a silver reflector or diffuser like light grid or black for negative fill go to the location stay there look at the sun and the way it look on the "set" do a breakdown to meet your need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Harris Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 When shooting outdoors and without hte budget for HMI's, I usually like to cut the sun with a double net (also a 1/2 or 1/4 silk works), although I find a full silk to be a bit too much. Then I bounce in underneath using shiny boards, each with a single/double net to control how much I'm getting off of each. This should give you a nice ability to control the light with no powered lights. Here's a sample of a commercial I shot using this approach. http://www.sunspot-pictures.com/commercials.php Hope this helps! -Nick Harris www.sunspot-pictures.com hey guys and gals, I'm a DP on my school film, and i have to light an exterior bright day with out using any HMI's, should i just use the sunlight and bounce it for fills? any cool advice for me? also, there is a polar opposite scene that needs to be lit like a film noir. It's a night scene in an alleyway with lights on the walls. Personally i want it to be pitch black without any light on the walls except for the very bright cones of light coming from the wall lights. any suggestions on either would be much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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