Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted March 6, 2011 Premium Member Share Posted March 6, 2011 Hi folks, Something I did recently for B&H has just been published: http://www.hdslrhub.com/tips/hdslr-color-grading-before-or-after.htm All opinions welcome, but only if they're good. You do get to hear my dreary slug of a voice, as a bonus! P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Spangler Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Excellent video, Phil. And I couldn't agree more. I shoot neutral with sharpness and contrast turned all the way down, which is still too sharp sometimes, and the color saturation is close to where I like it. This allows me to make small moves, not big ones, in the grading, keeping the image together as much as possible. It always shocks me when people want to shoot super-flat or super-contrasy in-camera. Middle of the road is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Hal Smith Posted March 6, 2011 Premium Member Share Posted March 6, 2011 Great video, I found it before you posted here...do I get a gold star? The only thing I'd add is that it's helpful to think of shooting with a DSLR as if it was loaded with color reversal film. That helps to keep one conscious of lighting ratios and color temperature in real time. By the way, your "dreary slug of a voice" really is quite good. You sound exactly right for the subject matter: Dry and straightforward. I'm also a bit of a patsy for a refined British voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Hain Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Does this apply to shooting black & white too? Is is better to use the internal configurations and shoot black and white or shoot neutral and de-saturate in post. If I was understanding correctly it sounded like one should do as much in camera as possible.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Heckendorn Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Something I did recently for B&H has just been published: Thanks Phil, very informative. I wonder if you've had time to test the new Technicolor CineStyle? And your opinion of its potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Worth Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Does this apply to shooting black & white too? Is is better to use the internal configurations and shoot black and white or shoot neutral and de-saturate in post. If I was understanding correctly it sounded like one should do as much in camera as possible.... If shooting black and white, the best thing to do is extract the unaffected Y (luma) channel from the H.264 file. You can do this with 5DtoRGB. I wonder if you've had time to test the new Technicolor CineStyle? And your opinion of its potential. I played around with it, and during my tests discovered that the Technicolor style boosts black up to 16 from where it should be (0). This discards precision. Interestingly, it does not do this to the highlights (they're still at 255). I don't think this is a good idea with 8 bit data, especially with such a flat curve. We need every bit of data we can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Heckendorn Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 I played around with it, and during my tests discovered that the Technicolor style boosts black up to 16 from where it should be (0). This discards precision. Interestingly, it does not do this to the highlights (they're still at 255). I don't think this is a good idea with 8 bit data, especially with such a flat curve. We need every bit of data we can get. I'm curious about that myself. With my (very limited) tests so far, it has held up quite well. I'm not sure if that's due to the Technicolor style itself or due to the fact that I've used 5DtoRGB. One thing that I have noticed, I find myself second guessing my choice for exposure. Since there aren't any true blacks, I feel like I'm overexposing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Ouellette Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Very informative, brought up a lot of good things I have not thought about shooting in super flat. Just about to shoot a film in the next week on the 5D and this changed my mind about the color setting I'll be using. Thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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