kb1017 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I have decided to invest in a super 16mm camera. I am specifically interested in the Aaton XTR Plus (not prod). I would love to hear pros and cons from those of you who have used it before or hersay about the camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kb1017 Posted March 20, 2005 Author Share Posted March 20, 2005 still waiting, wanting and hoping for you all's opinions.........thanks to whoever out there takes the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscar jimenez Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 What is the difference Beetween XTR and PLUS, I have only used LTR and XTR PROD, the latest one, is very good cam., Specially lithium batts and cam electronics menu, very very easy, easier than SR3, I still prefer ARRI's. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Nathan Milford Posted March 23, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted March 23, 2005 7LTR 1974 - 1982 #250 - #950 Most bodies are standard 16 only. Top speed is 32 fps. Uses mechanical drive. Option L - Lightmeter. Option R - Beamsplitter for VR30 tube tap. 54LTR 1982 - 1985 #950 - #1300 Top speed is 54 fps. Uses mechanical drive. Super 16 option. Option L - Lightmeter Option R - Beamsplitter for VR30 tube tap. XTR 1986 - 1992 #1300 - #1785 Top speed is 54 fps. Uses magnetic drive. Super 16 Option L - Lightmeter Option R - Beamsplitter for VR30 tube tap. Option T - AatonCode. X0plus 1992 - 1994 #1785 - #1900 Top speed is 60 fps (Bi-Phase Motor). Uses magnetic drive. Super 16. Screw-in 15mm front rods. Upgradeable to XTRplus. Option R - Capacity for integrated CCD tap. XTRplus 1992 - 1994 #1785 - #1900 Top speed is 60 fps (Bi-Phase Motor). Magnetic Drive. Super 16. Screw-in 15mm rods. Option L - Lightmeter. Option R-Dir - Video Assist. Option T - AatonCode. Side Display. Low Power Tri-phase Motor / Electronics X0plus 1994 - 1996 #1900 - above Top Speed 75fps Magnetic Drive Super16 Screw-in 15mm Rods Low Power Tri-phase Motor / Electronics Designed to be upgraded to XTRplus XTRplus 1994 - 1996 #1900 - above Top Speed 75 fps. Magnetic Drive. Super 16. Screw-in 15mm rods. Option L - Lightmeter. Option R-Dir - Video Assist. Option T - AatonCode. Side Display. Low Power Tri-phase Motor / Electronics XTRprod 1994 - 1996 #1900 - above Top Speed 75 fps. Magnetic Drive. Super 16. Screw-in 15mm rods. Option L - Lightmeter. Option R-Dir - Video Assist. Option T - AatonCode. Illuminated Side Display Low Power Tri-phase Motor / Electronics Multi-position Shutter Removable, swapable fibrescreen. Aatonite Illuminated Viewing. Built-in Speed Control in .001 increments. In the shop we refer to the next generation of cameras (> 1900) as Tri-Phase, like a Tri-Phase Plus vs a Bi-Phase Plus. >8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Andino Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Hey Nathan...couple of quick questions... Doesn't every Aaton camera with a Magnetic Drive have a side display? Or is it just the XTRPlus and XTRProd? If the XTRProd boost the swappable fibrescreen groundglass Does that mean you can't remove the ground glass on the other Aatons? What's so great about the Tri-phase motor? Finally what the hell does >8) mean? I ain't down with da lingo... :) Anyways catch you soon take care man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Nathan Milford Posted March 23, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted March 23, 2005 Howdy Rik, Doesn't every Aaton camera with a Magnetic Drive have a side display?Or is it just the XTRPlus and XTRProd? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Negative. The original XTR had no display. Also there are a bunch of 54LTRs that were upgraded to have a magnetic drive with no display, but there were a few upgraded to have a display. What's so great about the Tri-phase motor? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Better power consumption, more efficient and higher speeds. If the XTRProd boost the swappable fibrescreen groundglassDoes that mean you can't remove the ground glass on the other Aatons? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not without training and tools. You'd have to remove the mount (well if it were PL, if it's in Aaton you can remove the tab on the mount to turn it and leave the mount in tact), the top handle, the base and the front housing as well as the lens spider being mindful of the pellicule. Then you'd have to close her up again making sure that the FFD was still good and then you'd need to set the frame centering and screen focus assuring that what you see in the viewfinder is what the films sees. Luckily, with the cameras below the prod they have a pretty generic ground glass that will fill most needs and can be switched in and out of S16 by loosing a screw in the mount and sliding the ground glass left or right. Finally what the hell does >8) mean? I ain't down with da lingo... :) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's a smile, with glasses... sideways. Hey, if you see Roy anytime soon, let him know I send my regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenolian Bell Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Nathan if Aaton is gathering a wish list for the future. One of mine would be a firewire out port from the video assist. Recording the picture to DV. I work with a couple of directors who like to record the video assist to make sure they are getting the performance and coverage they want. And could be used as a quick and dirty laptop edit while on set, helpful on the slim budget film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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