David Edward Keen Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) I'm shooting a music video. The shot is a a low angle slow tracking shot in a pie-wedge sort of shape around Satan sitting on his motorcycle as he puts out the cigarette on a horn. I wanted to have a curtain, set behind Satan, I think of some translucent material, in the bokeh, filling the frame, with a orange or red source shining through the curtain. Imagining moving the curtain to create an effect of an impression of a hellish background. Any ideas ? I'm thinking of placing the lights on the ground illuminating the curtain that way...any thoughts? Shot lasts about 4 seconds. Edited October 20, 2015 by David Edward Keen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya Black Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 You are thinking of something like back projection? You could try video projection of actual fire although I think I'd prefer a more classic look but it depends on what you are going for. I'm thinking you might want to use moving reflectors of some kind to make the light move. Freya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Hartman Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Maybe http://www.gamonline.com/catalog/recipe/twinspin/fireeffects.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edward Keen Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Thanks guys...Honestly I think doing it in post is better. I don't think the light play will work the way I'm imagining..using a backdrop and fooling around with lights. We have to be outside. If I can put subtle fires in the distance in post, that will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Satsuki Murashige Posted October 21, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted October 21, 2015 If you're going to do it on green screen, then maybe put the money instead into something like a Magic Gadgets flicker box? In my experience it does a good job of creating a firelight flicker gag. Could help sell the fiery background plate if you use it as a backlight on the foreground character. You could also get a flamebar and place it just below the frame line for a real fire element. That could potentially complicate your composite, but I find using as many practical elements as possible in a VFX shot usually helps to sell the effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edward Keen Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) honestly i think i'll forget about effects and try to say it with camera angle, lighting, movement etc. it's too easy for it to become cheesy. although some large amount of cheese could be justified, as the tune is about Satan coming over and stealing this guy's weed! Edited October 22, 2015 by David Edward Keen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Hartman Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 The twin spin/two gobo method is a tried and true theater fire gag, front or rear projection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edward Keen Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 how does that work, or is there a good link to describe that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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