Chris Burke

I am not saying "why not make a car". Yes, I reckonize that there must be a whole load of work that goes into making a lens. But just the same. To those who could or maybe should. They are already set up to make lens.Why not? 1.33:1 is not 2:1 so, I guess that optical prints could be made. If you already have an anamorphic format which Super 16 is, than it wouldn't be that much of a jump up to 2.35.

How much R&D is needed? We all know that anamorphic lens work, so why not just grind one to 1.33:1? I truly think that if such a lens existed, the resulting image would be comparable to three perf 35, just a lot cheaper. thoughts??

I don't have the practical experience many of you do, but I ask, can a 1.33 anamorphic lens be made? Why not? I think it would make for a great experiment. would save on film cost as well.

The Nizo wide angle adapters are the best for this camera and easy to use. In terms of anamorphic; people have been doing all sorts of mods. Some have the gate widened, as I did. My camera shoots approximately 1.66, maybe a bit wider. Others have attached an adapter and had great success with it. Search these boards. Not too long ago a guy had a post with links to photos and all about how he did his with a Panasonic DVX100 16:9 adapter. He posted some stills as well. I have thought of adding this to my camera for a scope look. Anyone shot scope on Super 8? Not for super 8 projection, but transfer to digital.

I don't think that post would be a problem. Especially if you were to go the DI route. Is this canon adapter new or old? Can I find it on there website?

Is there such a lens that would be a 1.32xxxxxx:1 ratio for super 16 cameras? this would give an effective 2.35 image area and not waste any of the negative. Could be quite an alternative to shooting 35. $$$ Anyone ever heard of one? Could it be made? z

How are you editing and screening your work? If you go the non-linear route and are already set up to do that, your films will live in the digital realm, then shoot super 8. Buy a Nizo 6080 or Bealieu 6008 or later. Then go to Bonofilms.com and buy one or more of there super 8 to mini Dv packages. They are cheaper than Pro8mm. You will love it and it won't cost you that much. If you are going to cut on a flatbed or the like. Want to screen your films as prints, then go with 16. I own a K3. I can't speak highly enough about the quality of it's lens. Quite sharp with what I would call, "interesting contrast". Am considering the Super 16 upgrade.

Look around they are on the Web. I see them on ebay often. In Germany, mostly. z

Most transfer houses will cut you a deal different from their book rate. Talk to them and explain your situation. Since you are so new to the film world, I would highly recommend that you team up with someone who is knowledgeable. This will save you lots of aggravation and money. If you are looking for a telecine in the Boston area; take a look at National in Brookline, they often cut the local guy a good deal. Also try Filmshack, for the super lo budget.

Also, forgot to ask. What was your budget? for how much film? Running time, etc??? I would like to know how much shooting a short this way might cost. Do you think that , because it is Super 8 that is being scanned, it might cost less? Perhaps because of a smaller file size or something?? Love to learn more

Have you considered the stabilizer that is on the market now? I hear that it makes quiet a difference. you can find it hear: http://www.andecfilm.de/html/bildstand_e.htm

It looks very good. Is it any better than a HD telecine though? I guess the 35mm print and subsequent screening will tell. How large are the files when scanned? How are you planning to edit the footage?

if you are using super 8 for the entire film, I would highly recommend shooting with a negative stock rather than Tri-X exclusively. Why? Because of sharpness and exposure latitude. Also, stick to as many close ups as possible. Like DV, Super 8 isn't that good for wide shots, great in CUs. As far as HD or a DI scan, I suppose what ever you are willing to spend. The DI will be expensive. I would recommend a test. You could see what each method has to offer. Try Bonolabs.com, they have some great package deals where you could test both a black and white stock and a color negative stock. They also do a transfer straight to hard drive that is supposed to be great. I am going this route for a short and will post my results here first. Good luck!

Well, by brand new, I meant, the closest you will get to being brand new is probably one that you would purchase from Pro8mm.com. Does Beaulieu have any cameras currently in production?

I own a Nizo 6080 and recommend it highly. Other than say the Beaulieu sync cameras, the 6080 is the very best you can buy. Some people will go on and on about Canon cameras, which are very good, but the Nizo 6080 is the very, very best. It can be converted to synce sound, it is a very quiet camera to begin with, probably THE quietest. Also, you can buy many pro style accessories; Barney, larger mags( 200' and 400'), matte box, rails and on and on. A good one can be purchased for around 500 or 600. I have shot many rolls of film and am very pleased with the results. Living in Europe as you do, you can get them serviced in Germany, I believe, which is a lot easier than we have it here in the states. If money is not an issue and you can spend 2k or 3k, then buy brand new from Pro8mm.com, she will love you forever. Best of luck.

I heard it on some European website. I am trying to find out which one, but can't seem to remember. Either in NE or UK. It probably willl come out in Europe first as did the 7274, 7217 and 7218. In any case, I welcome the 100D, I will put it to great use.

I read on Friday that the new 100D color reversal Super 8 is due out this spring. Can anyone confirm this? Wonder how it will telecine? ;)

Who did the S16 mod? I would like to do the same. Who did the overhaul? Same people as the S16?

yeah, but what about this Vision2 250D? Will we see that in Super 8? That would be a handy stock. :D

I know that some people consider this overkill, but I am really interested in what sort of results can come out of a 2k scan of really well shot super 8 footage. My questions are: Has anyone done this? If so, how did it go? Do you like what you got? Can I see a dvd reel? Who does 2k work with super 8 on the east coast? I tried a search of the boards but keep getting an error. thanks

Rick, Best of luck. I also bought a DVD from you and loved what you did with the film. Do you guys modify cameras that people send to you? chris :rolleyes:

Again, what about a third party doing it? Pro8mm for instants. They seem to be the likely canidate. Perhaps someone else. chris

Use an external meter and ND filters if you need to. Tri-X is a beautiful stock that pushes well up to 800 asa. It is grainy at that speed but gorgeous. Good luck. z

Is any one in the US selling custom 200' loads? Pro8mm maybe?? :D

The method you describe is done quite often now. It is more often refered to as DI or digital intermediate. You shoot your film and have the negs scanned rather than the traditional telecine. The catch here is that it is a much more expensive endevor than telecine. If this is your first outing and are considering a 35mm blow up, then compose your shots for 1.85:1 and do a traditional telecine and have the negative conformed to your final video cut. I have researched this route myself and have found out that you need to have a rather large budget to get a DI. An optical blow up is still cheaper than going the DI route, although that will all change in time. As far as doing it yourself at home........... it would be much to costly and involved to be a viable solution. Right now the DI is for the $$ crowd. Traditional telecine is just fine for what you need. Hope this helps... :)