Nicholas Kovats

CatLABS of JP, distributor of Jobo analog products in the US and based in Boston, MA has confirmed that this new Super 8 processing drum called EXPERT will work on the smallest motorized JOBO processor called CPP3. Select older CPP2 machines will also work. Here is a picture of the new Super 8 drum form their Facebook page, i.e. http://tinyurl.com/othlk56 "CatLABS of JP: "As i wrote above - this Expert drum will fit all CPP/CPA and larger ATL machines. Please note that there were several production runs of the CPP2, and only the two latest models will be able to handle the load of this drum (SN 20001 and higher)" The drum appears to be "sprocketless" and therefore applicable to single strand Regular/Standard/Double 8mm film. Quite impressive in this day age. I concur, Matthew, that new Super 8 products may catalyse other film formats.

Julian, Are you going to identify your your specific H16 model? i.e. Rex4/5/SBM/EBM/EL? Type of viewfinder? 6x, 10x, 13x? Specifics help us help you.

That may be, Mark but I am not impressed with the singular example of a Hycam in action re: 1000 fps. It is a compressed example but the image does breathe, e.g.

Davo, The eBay examples you have posted are difficult to work with. The second example in fact utilizes a prism to generate low resolution images with a technique called frame blending. If quality images are your project goals then take note of this UK based seller whose has been trying to his sell his complete Photo-Sonics 16mm kit for some time. I suspect he would accept an offer. I have the reflex version of this and have spent considerable monies bringing up to speck. This example is one of the best and cleanest kits I have seen. Battery, charger and even the specialized lubricants. Photo-sonics are the definitive reference for pin registered high speed intermittent transport. This eBay example utilizes twin pulldowns. Two perf 16mm stock is still available from Kodak. NFL Films was at one time the largest user of these cameras and their imagery is fantastic. http://tinyurl.com/ntgltf5 Photo-Sonics pushed high speed intermittent transports as far one can go culimiating in a very special special 16mm beast with 4 claw pulldown and 8 pin registration that maxed out at 1000 fps. Check out the photos on my public UltraPan8 Facebook page of this special pulldown, i.e. http://tinyurl.com/qyracyt http://tinyurl.com/qexvcda "rare 16mm Photo-Sonics W-1 instrumentation capable of a maximum 1000 FPS. Four (4) registration pins total. This is is the fastest precision intermittent film transport ever devised. It uses standard 2 perf 16mm film stock (2R-3000). Pics by Philip Kiel, the current president of Photo-Sonics, Inc. As per our previous Facebook conversation, i.e. Photo-Sonics, Inc: "No, the 1W was a completely new camera. Millican had a 400 FPS camera, we built a 500, they built a 600 and our chief engineer, Roy Edwards, decided to put a stop to all that nonsense and he designed and built the 1W. It was not a commericial success. It was too expensive to produce and maintain." November 30, 2012 at 11:31pm · Like Photo-Sonics, Inc: "Nick, I posted a couple of pictures of 1W movement parts on the Photo-Sonics page. The register pins went through the pulldown pins and entered all four prefs above and below the frame being exposed. The film movement rotated at 60,000 RPM. It is a work or art...." November 30, 2012 at 11:39pm · Like Photo A = "One set of 16mm-1W pulldown pins and register pins."

It's called having to collimate your particular lenses. The lens back focus, that is the distance from the rear len's element to the tiny Super 8 film plane is critical for focus. More so than the larger film formats. I am not sure how lens techs collimate a fixed zoom but it would require dis-assembly which is not recommended for the faint of heart. Hence the appeal for some of us to shoot the Super 8 format with interchangeable lens mounts, i.e C, M, etc.

What did you end up rating the 500T? Did you use this stock in conjunction with a ND filter?

Great job, Geoffrey! Well done. V3 50d or 200T?

Hi Matt, Could you possibly provide specifics?

The number of beta cameras pre-sold has been updated to 25 globally distributed. I am number #25 and will be the only initial user in Canada. Pro8mm pre-sold 10 in NA distributed across NY and LA. The remaining have been allocated in Europe via Logmar directly. Tommy Madsen of Logmar wishes to keep the beta distribution and testing period (approx. 3+ months) somewhat controllable as user feedback/testing is submitted. As he has stated that may or may not result in hardware modifications resulting in beta cameras being shipped back. Considerable logistics.

All forty (40) Logmar Super 8 cameras have been pre-sold as part of the introductory beta program. Split evenly between European and North American markets. I am not surprised. http://www.logmar.dk/?p=323&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=beta-program-is-completely-sold-out "Beta program is completely sold out! Posted on August 23, 2014 by admin We have just sold out our entire beta program. Everyone who has come forward and got a spot in the program will receive their purchase contract by Monday the 25th of August. We are extremely excited with the prospect of delivering all these cameras as soon as possible! Thanks for your early support, we wouldn’t have been able to pull this off without you. Best regards Tommy L. Madsen, CEO"

Regrettably, NFL fims has decided to switch completely to digital production and have chosen the new digital Arriflex Amira as their new go to camera system. Up until recently they were Kodak's biggest customer of 16mm film stock. They have over 100 million feet of 16mm film in their archives predominately shot with the legendary Photo-Sonics Actionmaster 500 camera (24-500fps). I have yet to test mine, i.e. http://www.highspeedfilm.de/16_am500.html Here is the article in the New York Times, i.e. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/14/sports/football/5-decades-later-nfl-films-goes-digital.html?_r=1 "Within the headquarters of NFL Films in Mount Laurel, N.J., resides more than 100 million feet of film stored in tens of thousands of metal canisters."

Sorry, Paul but this appears to a transport issue. Have the rental vary the accuracy with strobe tool similar to this, i.e. http://www.cinemaelec.com/products/precision_strobe_light.php Did you run any registration tests? i.e. film target, back wind and then film target a second time. Your rental house may also have access to the Century Precision steady tester which provides an even backlight for the enclosed target, i.e. https://www.schneideroptics.com/pdfs/century/CP_SteadyTester.pdf.

Back in 2007, UK artist James Graham released his epic 360°/180° Super 8 film called "Iddu". It was shown in various European venues as a digital projection onto a 360° 12x screen dodecahedral installation with viewers in the center, i.e. http://www.jamespgraham.com/projects/video_home.php?title=116 He utilized two rigs. The 360° rig comprised of 12x Beaulieu 4008 and a 180° rig consisting of 6x Leicina Specials. http://www.jamespgraham.com/projects/image.php?title=&img=010%20JPG%20with%20360%20camera%20rig.jpg&id=19 http://www.jamespgraham.com/projects/image.php?title=&img=014%20180%20degree%20camera%20rig.jpg&id=1 This documentary depicts the viewer's immersion in what had to be a superlative and immersive presentation and his filming of the active volcano in Italy with the various rigs, i.e. http://www.jamespgraham.com/projects/video_documentary.php?title=116

Google translation, i.e. "Tools for DS8 (1-4) arrived after intensive efforts have succeeded us to obtain very rare Carbide tools for DS8 film format. These are required in order to produce also the DS8 camera film format (1-4) on polyester base in good quality. Our previous tools (hardened or tungsten carbide) were all for the Super 8 production was perfected - and are thus not suitable for DS8 the Perforationslage 1-4. With tool sets now in addition acquired by us, a separate DS8 (1-4) workflow be implemented. Since we currently they are working on two major projects in neighboring areas of business, we can not currently make any forecasts for delivery. But WITTNER CHROME 200D DS8 is a done deal. We will again settle message in the foreseeable future availability."

Julian, Which Bolex viewfinder do you have? 6x, 10x? The 13x version is excellent. Greater magnification, contrast and brightness.

Here is Logmar's latest press release detailing the cross continent Beta camera program. Beta cameras will be ready by Xmas with a one year warranty entailing owners to hardware upgrades to match eventual production model in 2015. They have already upgraded the firmware to extend framerates down to 1 fps. The internet press coverage continues. Some of the articles exemplify ignorance regarding anything to do with a film based medium. But there is a definitive excitement among those who are curious. http://www.wired.com/2014/07/logmar-super-8/ http://cinescopophilia.com/grab-your-own-logmar-s-8-super-8-camera/ http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2014/08/this-new-super-8-camera-captures-nostalgia-in-a-flash/ http://www.hdvideopro.com/blog/editor/2014/08/super-8-lives-logmar-camera-solutions-wants-to-bring-back-film-with-a-modern-super-8-film-camera.html#.U-DmefldUmc http://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/logmar-super-8-digital-camera-uses-analog-film/#!bwjQ0t "http://www.logmar.dk/?cat=6 Starting up beta camera production! Posted on August 3, 2014 by admin Together with the announcement of Pro8mm as distributor for US, Canada and Mexico we also decided to run a smaller pilot series of cameras, which will serve as a beta testing program before we launch the mass-production edition in second or third quarter next year. The goal of this beta testing program is to mature the product even further before a mass release. We expect all buyers of a beta camera to send in their feature requests/ideas (if any) as well as their usage experience and report potential bugs, problems etc. As a token of our appreciation for your pioneering work, we will be selling these beta cameras at a reduced rate of 3.500$ USD* (2.695€ EUR)* compared to the mass release cameras that will be sold at a price around 5.500$ USD* (4.100€ EUR*). All beta cameras sold will come with a one-year warranty and free upgrade program so that If issues are uncovered, that needs changing of (for example) mechanics or electronics we will upgrade the camera under the warranty as well, so that your camera will look and feel like the mass-production cameras coming later next year. These beta cameras will support exactly the same features as the mass release cameras including the external 200’ft cassette option. We expect most issues to be purely software related, which requires you to do a simple firmware update of the camera via a windows based computer with a USB connection available but if something needs servicing or exchange of parts you simply have to return the camera to either Pro8mm or Logmar Denmark. To make sure all beta cameras are up to date with the “mass release cameras” coming later next year we will notify every beta customer in case we make a mechanical or electrical improvement that needs you to turn in the camera for warranty upgrading so that your beta camera is always up to date. Pro8mm will be serving the US, Mexican and Canadian market with beta cameras for delivery around Christmas and we will be directly fulfilling beta camera orders from the European Union at the same time. Since all cameras will be built to order, we ask all European customers to pay a non-refundable deposit of 995€ EUR* upon entering an order with us. (US, Mexican and Canadian customers could contact Pro8mm directly to learn more) Once we are ready to ship your camera, we ask you to provide the remaining payment of 1.700€ EUR* which will include the shipping costs within the European Union after which we will send the camera via FedEx or DHL. Please note that there’s only a limited amount of beta cameras made available, which will be sold on a first come, first serve basis. As a special feature, each camera can be personalized with the buyers name or company name included in the firmware upon turn-on if wanted free of charge. This is a feature that the mass-release cameras will not support. If you are interested in becoming a beta camera customer, please contact either Pro8mm or Logmar directly at Tommy@Logmar.dk to learn more. * = Please note that the prices above are exclusive of VAT. --- Extended frame rates Posted on August 3, 2014 by admin During our visit to Pro8mm many of the participants in their open house event asked about frame rates below 18 fps which we had not considered before. Taking their feedback into consideration we’ve been working hard to make that happen and are happy to report that our latest firmware has been upgraded to support frame rates down to 1 fps including everything in-between. Currently we are working on implementing some of the other ideas that came from the event into the firmware also.

Major article in Wired. First 20 cameras will sell for $3,500 US then increase to $5,000 US. http://www.wired.com/2014/07/logmar-super-8/]http://www.wired.com/2014/07/logmar-super-8/ I predict the first batch of 20 units will sell out.

Wittner appears to have the distributorship for Europe. Probably not. But why not send them a direct email? They are quite responsive.

Best of luck to the Digital Illuminati in prying film stock and motion picture cameras from my hands!

Your knowledge is reflexive and formidable, Dennis. Thanks again!

We need a 70mm camera forum. The word "Super" may or may not imply anamorphics. If so I believe the correct term is either Ultra Panavision or MGM Camera 65 (65mm plus 1.25x anamorphic). Whopper of a format with an aspect ratio of 2.76:1. Similar to the hybrid spherical native film format I introduced in 2011 called UltraPan8, e.g. Go Quentin!

Hot off the press. Pro8mm (California) will be the exclusive distributor of the new Logmar Super 8 camera in Canada, US and Mexico. http://vimeo.com/101753821?inf_contact_key=63e47125efddaa125608c80defe5d042e194bf1703ee9939edb6cd8d1001c703

One of the best sources for the required 2 perf 16mm .3000 or .2996 pitch film stock is eBay. It pops up consistently and is adequate for low cost experimentation of your transport, i.e. http://tinyurl.com/l8r36oh I would dedicate a smaller roll as a daylight loaded "dummy" roll to practice threading and test your transport under various frame rates. I have an alternative to the minimum Kodak purchase requirements which entails re-manufacturing single perf 16mm or 35mm stock if need be. Keep us posted.

Indeed. A Bell & Howell 35mm Eyemo utilizes a superb transport system perfected in the 1920/30's. It is rock solid. Check out these really beautiful reflex modifications, i.e. http://www.vantagefilm.com/file/pdf/equipment_21.pdf Good luck and keep us posted!

Wolfgang, Your NAC E-10 was built by Photo-Sonics in California. It is still listed in their rental catalog and it would be worthwhile to contact them regarding manuals. They have been very helpful in that manner with my PAM 500, i.e. http://www.photosonics.com/pdf/Photo-Sonics%20Rental%20Dept%20Catalog%202008.pdf I am not sure of the exact implementation but it appears that the transport is a combination of 1. intermittent (requires 16MM DOUBLE PERFORATIONS (2R), .2994 PITCH film stock) - I believe Kodak still has 500T2 perf listed. 2. rotary prism - "frame blending" http://www.photosonics.com/high_speed_article_by_conrad_kiel.html The rotary prism allows the insanely high spec'd frame rates of your camera but at the cost of resolution. There is no frameline. Pure classic intermittent high speed transports w/ pin registers are the sharpest. But with obvious top speed limitation of 500 fps. I have potential access to a 1000 fps 16mm intermittent camera but that is a very rare beast indeed and quite exotic. Can you afford stock costs at 500-1000fps? I personally prefer the slightly dreamy effect of 48 fps and I intend to utilize my PAM 500 as a tack sharp (double pulldown - double pin register) "low speed" camera. Best of luck with your endeavours. Keep us posted. And thanks for shooting film. Nicholas