Nicholas Kovats

No planned co-axial 400ft mag. Original spec is non-co-axial 100 ft magazine only with daylight spools. Possible future 200ft version dependent on base model success. The 400ft coaxial mag design is to be potentially implement with Logmar's more expensive Rockhopper S16 project.

There are two Logmar S16 projects. This one and the more costly "Rockhopper" project currently on hold which will support 400ft mags. Developing coaxial quiet mags is not cheap nor is the final cost.

Logmar has now updated me regarding their micro prism viewfinder details, i.e. - No optical vewfinder - Reflex mirror on front of the shutter - Tapped digitally through a microprism screen - Shutter is spinning disc and not a guillotine - Clean optical path form lens to film - No beamsplitter (no loss of fidelity) - For comparison purposes: The Gentoo S8 camera had specced a 1500 GRIT ground glass (grain) - Older film cameras typically specced 600-800 GRIT ground glass (grain) - The Galapagos microprism array focus screen "...gives you a 4x-8x improvement over the 1500 GROT ground glass." - These microprism screens are used in IMAX, Arri 765 and Logmar's own 5-perf 65mm camera Magellan. - Microprism screen is roughly 9x more expensive than ground glass screen.

Hot off the Logmar press. The "Rockhopper" S16 camera project has been retired and now superseded by the "GALAPAGOS GS16" Super 16 camera project. I have been advised that some attributes of the recently retired Gentoo S8 project will be incorporated. Additional information will be released in 13 days. Minimum target of 10-15 pre-orders "..before that platform can tape out to manufacturing." Potential and approximate year turn around dependent on 3rd party market supply chains, e.g. "...where electronics are (now) on 40 week lead times." They may a metal prototype in a month's time with associated photos. Preliminary design specs are as follows, i.e. https://www.logmar.dk/galapagos/ GALAPAGOS GS16 BODY ONLY 26,900 EUR (projected) (~ 28,100 US) - Pin registration for ultra-sharp image - Fixed rotating disc shutter @ 172.8 degrees - 100ft daylight reel loaded magazine - Silent operation (*) - Programmable frame rates up to 48fps (**) - Industry standard V-Lock nano battery mount - PL-Mount with internal lens data provisions for future MFT mount upgrade - Ultra-high quality microprism focus screen with 1080p60 3G-SDI reflex finder output - 11VDC to 28VDC polarity agnostic LEMO 1B.302 input - Two fused (LEMO 0B.302) 14.4V power outputs with Panavision polarity - One (LEMO 0B.310) accessory connector - Side display with status info, frame counter and system settings information - USB for firmware upgrades * = Sound level aim is non-MOS operation up to 26fps for the body but if it, despite belief, cannot be achieved in-body a custom leather blimp will be sold separately ** = It is possible to purchase a high-speed version with support for up to 90fps against a 3.800 EUR fee The design specs hint at a small form factor relative to the 100 ft mags. I have requested clarification regarding the microprism focusing screen which has now been sent over, i.e. - No optical vewfinder - Reflex mirror on front of the shutter - Tapped digitally through a microprism screen - Shutter is spinning disc and not a guillotine - Clean optical path form lens to film - No beamsplitter (no loss of fidelity)

Hi Raymond, To be clear. My quoted statement was not targeting your postings. It was and is a generalist statement ultimately designated for an infamous but nameless negative "contributor". Tit for tat is wasteful energy. I am attempting to elevate the level of respectful discourse absent falsehoods. I welcome your constructive criticisms and for the most part agree with your engineering perspective. I too work with many. Marketing is not their forte. However, the engineering passion represented by the Logmar projects requires our support regardless of the difficult births. I invested in the original Logmar S8 Chatham for that reason. I would be very interested in Christopher Nolan's cinematographer's detailed perspective and utilization of Logmar's 25lb 65mm film camera in the field. NK

Gregg, Great to see a fellow kindred spirit. You are the well spoken and respected veteran in this niche area of deflating analog camera hubris and delusional false statements. And a big thank you to Heikki Repo and you for both of your detailed attention and contributions towards the invaluable Eclair ACL camera threads. NK

No. There are jealous individuals in this thread who lie and amplify their self-worth with the recurrent theme "If I only I had been consulted first." Perpetual and delusional hubris is toxic and does not build community. The endgame is to encourage and invest in the development of new analog film cameras. The brave few who may inspire others to innovate, design and produce subsequent film cameras and associated accessories. It takes guts and perseverance not whining.

Logmar has released the following statement regrading the Gentoo Super 8 project, i.e. https://www.logmar.dk/uncategorized/super8-update/ By Tommy Lau Madsen Uncategorized June 14, 2022 Allow me to provide an update on the Gentoo camera and share a few words about its “difficult birth” and where we stand today. When we decided to start work on the Gentoo a little more than 8 months ago our motivation behind doing it was that that the market is missing a professional camera for the Super8 format and ever since we did our Chatham camera some seven years ago, we have been longing to make a successor which we had hoped the Humboldt would be, but sadly it wasn’t meant to be (with us as the driving force) and today that camera no longer carries any heritage from us. In Q3-2021 we started kicking the idea around internally that we should make a new Super8 camera which would set the stage for professional users. From the onset we knew that Gentoo would be a hard sell. We aspired to hit a sales price of 3.500 EUR but it was quickly apparent that it was going to be impossible to reach that number unless we would sell a few hundred cameras and knowing that our first camera didn’t even sell fifty at that price level we then had to work “backwards” together with our sub-contractors and derive the sales price from a minimum amount of manufactured cameras and the smallest batch some of our subcontractors wanted to commit to was fifty so we asked for quotes on that which landed us at the 5.000 EUR price. The trouble was that we had to buy fifty sets of all parts up-front to hit that price point. Two weeks after launching the camera we had fifty-one people providing their details and requesting sales contracts, so we were confident that Gentoo was a homerun but eventually out of those fifty-one people only twelve converted into actual sales and it was alarmingly apparent that we would never be able to hit the fifty cameras which we had done our cost calculations based on and as we had to buy fifty sets to start manufacturing and we had promised a 6-8 months delivery time it was simply impossible for us to proceed with the Gentoo program as we couldn’t wait for customers to potentially come forward and we had to cancel it. In the immediate aftermath several of the twelve signing customers as well as some new customer prospects came forward and asked if we could conceive making a smaller batch of cameras than the original fifty units knowing that the price would then obviously be higher, and we are currently exploring if this is an option as a one-off batch together with our sub-contractors. We hope to reach a conclusion relatively soon in that regard. In the meantime, please do not hesitate to get back to me if you have questions, comments, or concerns at Tommy@Logmar.dk Yours truly Tommy TOMMY LAU MADSEN / ABOUT AUTHOR Founder @ Logmar Camera Solutions. Lead designer on all camera platforms - proud purveyor of the analog format.

Fantastic to see Pierre discussing the "proper" camera method in the documentary clip. Such a buddha. And graceful.

Love it! A French "Mouse in the hand". Jean-Pierre would agree.

Fantastic picture of the man himself! So tiny. This 100ft mag prototype would sell like hotcakes in the current state of affairs. How did you obtain this picture? I also have buried somewhere a picture of Jean-Pierre holding his similar and tiny 9.5mm prototype targeting the Belgium/France 9.5mm market in the 90s.

Logmar received 51 commitments to purchase a Gentoo camera as per subcontractor minimal order requirements. But only 24% followed through and signed contracts with a delivery date of 6-8 months. They could not afford to wait for additional signed commitments relative to the planned delivery schedule. They ultimately and honorably decided to refund the signed commitments. They will build a few for rental purposes in an attempt to recoup R/D losses. They are proceeding with their S16 camera project and are still building out more of their 65mm versions. I would advise the select few who are spreading misinformation and claiming falsely to have a direct connection to Logmar to cease and desist.

Don. I like your enthusiasm. They have achieved to date approximately 45% of their 50x unit pre-sales target. I may post additional prototype pics.

Gentoo penguin: (/ˈdʒɛntuː/ JEN-too) (Pygoscelis papua) is a penguin species (or possibly a species complex) in the genus Pygoscelis. Logmar.dk is now accepting preorders for their new precision Super 8 camera called Gentoo GS8, i.e. 4,995 EUR (approx $5,280 US) Note that is has C Mount with back focus adjustment in conjunction with an optical bench, etc. From their website - https://www.logmar.dk/gentoo-s8/ "Please note that the pictures are of our 3D printed prototype camera and hence the build quality is notably poor – the real production model will be built in aluminum. Camera is shown with following non-included accessories: Lens, NATO Rig ARRI Rosette, NATO Rig handle, Small-HD 502 3G-SDI viewfinder, CoreSWX battery, Kodak Super8 Film" "Partial feature list: - 3G-SDI 1080p output supporting critical focus and low-light conditions. - User programmable frame rates up to 48fps with crystal synchronization - perfect for music videos, documentaries etc.. -Multiple Start/Stop Trigger inputs with support for trigger handles etc. -Side display with status info, frame counter and system settings information -11VDC to 28VDC polarity agnostic input power port (LEMO 0B.302 industry standard) -Two fused (LEMO 0b.30x) 14.4V VBAT Power outlets for powering lens motors, viewfinder monitor etc. -Gentoo is designed around the CoreSWX Nano Micro 98 industry standard V-Lock cine-battery which allows multiple hours of operation -Uses standard Kodak 50ft cartridges in combination with a re-usable spacer providing true pin registration -Multiple customization options with NATO rigging, cheese-plates etc. -Designed and build of aircraft grade aluminum in Denmark. -Developer access is possible (open source firmware) "The Gentoo is designed specifically towards production companies, rental-houses, studios or professionals wanting 16mm like image quality with the cost and convenience of 8mm. The Gentoo is built to be the most versatile 8mm camera for any storyteller wanting reliability and the ultimate creative freedom as it comes with on-camera support for NATO rigging, cheese-plates etc. allowing you to easily customize it. Gentoo sports modern amenities such as industry standard V-Lock allowing you to shoot hours of footage on a single charge and quickly being able to swap the battery in the field seamlessly or power the camera from another power source such as a drone, Steadi-cam rig, car battery etc. More importantly we are proud to present an extremely low light capable viewfinder which provides critical focus through an 1080p60 resolution ultra-fine grid ground-glass meaning that never has it been so easy to get focus right. Gentoo is also the first 8mm camera to introduce pin registration without the need to form a Latham loop. This unique Logmar invention provides image registration within the exposed frame on a standard 50ft Kodak cartridge and not at the next image like our former Chatham camera, meaning that scanned footage will yield the best possible result. The Gentoo is a “slot in” cartridge camera where you only need to insert a re-useable spacer in the regular Kodak cartridge to obtain true pin registration and away you go. Each camera is bespoke, hand assembled, tested and built to order in Denmark.Our subcontractors have a rather high minimum ordering quantity for the parts required and as such we will only be able to make a single production run of complete cameras and hence we will be opening up pre-sales now and only once we have reached the critical mass will we send out a proper order confirmation and require a deposit downpayment before commencing manufacturing. We are currently in the process of preparing paperwork, sales material etc. Enquire to know more! Yours truly Tommy L. Madsen ( Tommy@Logmar.dk )"

This is truly terrific news. I need at most 48fps in my ACL. I have rock solid twin pin registered Photo-Sonic 16mm high speed cameras for anything higher up to 500fps. . Are you designing low speeds for time-lapse work? Are you gong to offer the motor/electronics install yourself absent external wiring?