Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

Too bad they don't make a simple and affordable optical reader to extract the sound from films. Projectors fit the bill to extract sound good enough for me, but they also cause wear and tear, and many films can't be projected any longer. Almost all the films I get are very rough. So luckily for me I don't need to fine tune things that much trying to polish a turd to the n'th degree. A stock footage guy traded me some archival audio files for something. He used Cedar noise reduction on the files. The files were pretty impressive with hiss reduction. (But I'm no audio expert.) With all the $$ Lasergraphics charges I'm surprised they didn't wire in a Cedar machine into their high-end scanner. Their auto color correction for red films is impressive. Just too bad Lasergraphics is so shitty to deal with for responding to their emails. That says a lot about a company when they never respond. Now on another subject Dan, does Lasergraphics have a sales company and repairman in your country? If not, how much do they charge to fly someone there?

Jeeeesus...I don't know what it all means. Film work is sooo complex. I just need some half-ass decent 4K scans and to get the sound synched up similar as to how a projector with an exciter bulb would play sound. Originally, I thought to run the films through the projector and capture the sound, then marry audio to the films. But a lot of my films don't project well. So, I got AEO Light. But I'd like to make things easy on me and scan the film in one pass to do it all at once. Sure, people in business may have skewed views. Some are honest, some are not. And with more and more people getting into the get rich quick scanning biz, maybe some are not as honest as they could be while trying to grab an ever decreasing share of the film scanning pie. I don't have many delusions about gear / equipment. It comes under the auspices of...it is what it is. If I can get better gear, I will, if it fits my budget, space and time. But it usually always depends on the $$. $$ is stored energy. $$ buys space and time I guess the only way to get some settlement on this Lasergraphics sound issue is to hear audio samples comparing various scanners. Then people can decide which is more pleasing. But, more pleasing may not be the most complete reproduction. I think most people ordering scans want a decent sound and not something that need more audio doctoring. So pleasing is a big deal with me. But with archival work, being true to the original is also important. It just depends. It is a balancing act. Sometimes the original is such a mess you don't try bothering with keeping it true to its current condition. Even so, you need to do a good job recording it in its original state so you can 'work' on it. Attributed to Myers S.F. DDTJRC Ballerina Archive Maybe the deal with the Lasergraphics audio is this... You want to do audio work on your film...scan with the Lasergraphics to get a complete capture of the audio. You want a finished scan, that has pleasing audio, with no additional audio work...scan with something else. But I'm just guessing. Without audio sample comparisons to study it is all a crapshoot as to who is right. I'm about done for today. Got to get back to work. ...God, why couldn't FF just have made a proper audio capture on their scanner. It could have saved us all this hassle!

Nice report Perry...Thanks! Getting back to my earlier post...it would be nice to have the sound samples to hear. But... Would you say the Lasergraphics reproduces optical sound similar in quality to a projector or not Perry? That may be an issue than Dan B is referring to. Maybe the Lasergraphics is reproducing a lower 'perceived quality' sound as compared to projector? I would think the scanners job is to reproduce the experience as close as possible to the projected film. But it may be as you say Perry. The Lasergraphics scanner gets it all down, including the warts, and you have to remove them in post.

I don't understand Tyler. You have the same inconsistences in the film being scanned in all scanners. So the film's inconsistencies can't be blamed on the FF. Or are you saying the FF is not good at handling inconsistences in film as opposed to other scanners? What do you mean by capturing in 2 passes? I'd like a scanner that can scan in one pass. Is there an issue with scanning sound in one pass with the FF? I've had enough out of synch issues with my Russian post software. The synch gets out of whack many a time with MP4 conversions. But it is $75 software, not a $45K scanner.

You got some sound samples Andrew? Let's hear them. Some people are very picky, maybe the sound with the FF is OK, just don't know. All I'm looking for is decent, undistorted sound reproduction mainly of people talking. On another, but still related topic with the FF, how is their software? Is it easy to use? Does it offer adjustments to the sound reproduction that would help?

Flywheels? How is it a cheap projector, with no flyweels, can reproduce the sound and not cost $45k? That is what I don't get Tyler. What does FF have to do to fix the sound problem?? Can it be fixed by the user? Maybe if you send a sound sample to FF they can understand the problem. Which is terrifying in itself...that a company can't understand a simple problem like that. And speaking of sound samples, put the defective FF sound sample up at the I.A. for us to hear. (If it has not already been posted here. Still trying to catch up.)

Yes, side by side tests are the best Dan. It takes out the personal prejudices of being a fanboy. But the tests must be honest and not skewed because of personal likes or dislikes. Ego can be a problem. People get attached to their 'thing' and it must be the best or their ego gets hurt. if their 'thing' gets attacked, it is an attack on them personally, as their 'thing' is an extension of them. I talked with Perry ages ago about putting up actual moving image sample scans of his work to show this or that service he offered. But you know Perry, he is set in his ways. He won't do it, he only likes still photo samples from the scans, which look the worst, as compared to the moving image scans which smooths things out. That is why I sent in a post a while back about Perry regarding 'divorcing the ego' from your work or it can skew your thinking. Now, I don't know who is telling the truth with this Lasergraphics subject. But I hope to dig deeper into this thread. I just started to inventory my film Archive on the computer on Friday. I'm up to #307 out of thousands of films that need to be inventoried. So not much time for forums...but I hope to get a few posts done. <><><><> Selection from Eastman Kodak Archive DDTJRAC

OK, thanks John! Do you have any history to add with the can about Cine' Lab NY?

Whenever the lotto is exploding you sometimes see threads on forums asking what you would do with the $$. Irrespective of the lotto, that is a good practice to do once in a while, to see where you are at with your life if money was no object. For me...I'd be doing the same things I'm doing now. Just more of it, on a higher level, making things easier for myself and buying some help. But, one thing about being rich, you can only live 'so cushy' of a life and be healthy. Rich or poor, we all come under natural law. <><><><> Selection from Whoop Whoop project 2014 D.D.Teoli Jr.

Full coverage: Magna Tech MD 636 B 6 Channel 16mm/35mm Magnetic Film Dubber Telecine Follower eBay Archive D.D.Teoli Jr. A.C. : D.D.Teoli Jr. A.C. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive Do they make optical sound readers like this?

Thanks Charles! Always great to have someone in the know. And it was from an educational print. Dan

Cine' Lab 16mm Film Can Selection from Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Small Gauge Film Reel & Can Archive Photo: D.D.Teoli Jr.

Photos: D.D. Teoli Jr. It has a sandy texture / coating on the outside. If it was marketed to curb V.S....it does not work that well. What is the scoop?

Looks like the trend for online photo downloads is WEBP files. I just got introduced to them over the last few weeks. They don't show up at the I.A. for preview or can be used with the photo viewer on Windows. Hopefully they get up to date with the software and I.A.. If not, I won't bother archiving memes any longer. I've got a huge archive of memes from various online forums. Somewhere about 5,000 memes at the I.A.. Almost all are political based one way or another. Maybe if you got a new version of Lightroom you can bulk convert to jpeg. Lightroom 5 won't do anything with them. They have online WEBP converters, but I wont use anything online. Can't risk my computer to scams. You can convert them to jpeg with Paint...one by one. But I can't fool with thousands of files like that. Of course, this won't affect many of you, will it? But as an archivist, with a huge archive of material archived off the internet, it is a big pain to me.

So how did this flooded Bronica finally end up?

The Shaolin Temple 1982 was a groundbreaking film from China / Hong Kong filmed at the Shaolin Temple. Clips include scenes from the famous '4 seasons' training, steel whip, 3 section staff and others. Too much to tell you here, Wiki has a big writeup for the film. Clips From The Shaolin Temple 1982 : D.D.Teoli Jr. A.C. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

If anyone wants some super cheap stock footage or just wants bulk 16mm processed film, now is the time. Alpha Blue Archives put up a ton of bulk 16mm lots on eBay. I only put up 2 examples. Some films going for $2 - $3.50 per can in bulk lots as Buy-it-Now. All types of material. As an example, the top lot of 18 films is $2.77 per film. A can or reel cost more than that. I would have jumped on it, but am shutting down the film Archive to new acquisitions. Too much hassle scanning film.

We don’t give much attention to the telegraph now. But back in the day it took weeks to deliver and get a reply answer from a letter sent across the USA. Or it would take months if you were talking about letter going to and from England or Europe. Samuel Finley Breese Morse, (4.27.1791 – 4.2.1872), was an American artist and inventor who helped develop the telegraph and Morse Code. April 2, 2022 is the 150th Anniversary of his death. Within the Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival Collection, I have a collection of Telegraphy related material. I’m not going over the history of the telegraph or how it worked. You can research that on your own. But I will share some of the images I have in the collection in honor and remembrance of Samuel F.B. Morse. Telegraph messenger boy Even though messages could be sent fast, many businesses economized with shortening ‘the code’ by using their own telegraphy code. Now one word in Morse code, could become 7 or 8 words. The telegraph was pretty simple. You had a key and a sounder / resonator connected by wires held on a wooden pole with glass insulators. ...Continued and full rundown: The 150th Anniversary of the death of Samuel Morse…the Father of the Telegraph – Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival Collection – II (home.blog)

I get a constant feed of emails from 'Likers and Followers' from my Vimeo account. But...Vimeo banned me from uploads a long time ago. Why they don't remove my old content, I don't know. It all violates their standards. But every day, every hour the emails still come from the likers and followers from a few old films that were left up. I learned a long time ago to send all that Vimeo email to spam. I can delete in bulk. I can't shut it off, blocked from log ins last time I tried. Here is about 5-1/2 hours' worth of Vimeo mail from yesterday... Here is the Vimeo mail I woke up to this morning... I guess if there was some money involved I would not mind being so popular. But what I feel bad for are the likers and followers that I can't share my material with. I really feel terrible. I tried to put a notice at my Vimeo account to redirect them to the I.A., mentioning the Vimeo problem, but it was blocked. I just put up a few sample films at Vimeo. Nothing really. I got thousands of reels, millions of feet of film. Just fantastic stuff. If I could get it all scanned, GD, my email account would blow up...or would it impload? Whatever. <><><><> Selection from Anatomy of a 8mm Cine' Kodachrome project - D.D.Teoli Jr.

It is not the old Kodak...it is the new Kodak. The old Kodak was more secretive. But whether, old or new, some companies won't even answer their emails, let alone give you a view. Here is (old) Kodak's photo paper operation. Kodak Archive: DDTJRAC Below: An early blackout infrared flash photo from 1945 of Kodak’s Aero Pan film spooling operation. A single GE 22R infrared flashbulb was suspended above each operator for illumination. Photographed with a 4 x 5 camera with infrared film. Kodak Archive: DDTJRAC Can you imagine working in the dark all day? Panchromatic film, no safelight and everything by touch. Sure, we did it all the time in the darkroom. But not in the dark 8 hours a day. OK, maybe it would not be so bad, for half an hour a day, if you had a luscious girl to work with in the dark. But nowadays they got all that me too stuff. So, I'd be fired within 5 minutes. But I'm getting too old, so not much energy left for the gals. Anyway, the gals had to keep their hair wrapped. No drippings on the film! All women crew except the cart. Women got patience. That is something we should do nowadays. Shoot some IR flash in the darkroom! I love IR Flash! <><><><> Selection from Anatomy of a 8mm Cine' Kodachrome - D.D. Teoli Jr.

eBay: Fair Use The film collectors tell me 3M's Photogard and Dacar's Image Guard were helpful for scratch protection on film. But only for poly film. If applied to acetate, the film could not off gas and accelerated the VS destruction. <><><><> Selection from Anatomy of an 8mm Cine' Kodachrome - D.D.Teoli Jr.

You would think so Dom. I've tried FB a number of times over the last 12 years, using different names. Same result. They ban me in short order. Same thing on numerous online discussion forums... Flickr, DP Review, Tumblr and tons more. All that censorship was a driving force for my working on placements with museums and special collections libraries with my work. Online is not reliable at all. Even the Internet Archive... The Internet Archive turned out to be not very archival – Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival Collection (wordpress.com) But... There is nothing wrong with the OP Dom. It applies to the subject. If you don't like it, why waste time on answering it? When I see a post I don't like...I move on to the next one. And this is a discussion forum, so we discuss. And even if it does not help you out Dom...it may help someone else. Writing uses a different part of the brain than talking. Writing can crystalize our thinking on a subject Dom. <><><><> Selection from Anatomy of an 8mm Cine' Kodachrome project - D.D. Teoli Jr.

Don't know who is telling the truth. I hope to get back to the thread later to see who else chimes in on this subject. I hope Robert has something to say on it. And it is not that I don't believe you Perry, it is that I know nothing about the scanner competition. So, I do not know where Lasergraphics fits in with sound reproduction. Like I said previously, I was very happy with the optical sound you did for me Perry.

Are you serious?? I thought Lasergraphics was King or at least Queen. Now, I'm not interested in hi-fi or multi track crap. Some films have narration, and some films have synched dialogue. Maybe an old Soundie here or there from the 40's. That is all I'm after. There is a guy on LinkedIn that transfers sound like you speak about, off films. I wondered why anyone would do that if the scanner can read the sound. But I guess scanner sound is not good enough for the big boys. Here is a 16mm sound film Perry scanned for me a few years ago when I first started... It is a raw scan. OK, Perry has a $$ Lasergraphics model, but won't their El cheapo Archivist do as well with the sound? Perry also did one by Deanna Durbin. I thought sound was great. Beautiful little film. As soon as I put it on YT, they took it down within a few hours and banned me for 2 weeks. That was my intro to being a film archivist. I paid $35 - $40 for the film, maybe it was $160 to scan, + shipping both ways and boom I get banned for my troubles. Plus, I paid Perry to burn me some discs. I didn't know how to burn Blu-ray back then, make MP4 or even make titles. I'm an old fossil still photog from the 70's. I knew nothing of cine' film and video. Here is the 'banned film' that Perry did. Internet Archive Search: Deanna Durbin teoli (Raw scan)

Just getting back on this thread today. After I posted earlier in the week, with hopes of reading the replies, I found another few hundred 16mm reels in storage to organize. So did not have time. I've found I have 2 or 3 copies of some films...all because of not knowing what I have. That is a big problem when you got stuff all over the place. That is terrible Tyler. I mean, it is good you were at least able to discuss it with them. It is not like Lasergraphics where they won't answer emails. But FF is not much better if they can't or won't understand the issue. OK, they will answer your inquires--but do nothing about it. Reminds me of the Russian post software I use. They eventually answer emails, but you are in the same boat as FF...same problem and nothing has changed. I'm thinking FF should lower their machine way down in price if it does not do sound right. $45K for a 'so called' sound scanner, that does not do sound, is way too much. Can the sound be fixed in Audacity? Or does it get out of synch? How have you worked with this sound issue Tyler? Well, I got half an hour, now about 26 minutes, so will see what I can read here.